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76  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Ceriatone Tweaked on: April 25, 2008, 06:46:06 PM
Yes, thanks Jack. Please post your final menu with a clip - I have an Overtone and plan to mod it based on your info.

I'll post a clip tonight or tomorrow with the latest tweaks. I'm now at the point where I can't go any further until UPS shows up with my order from mouser with parts. Unfortunately, I forgot a couple parts in my first order so I ordered about $5 in parts last night (along with $5 shipping) which will arrive a day or two later. The main tweaks now are the V2A and V2B cathode bias circuits and plate resistors and V1B cathode bias circuit. I'm going to try beefing up the power supply caps from 50UF (a tad light) to 75UF which should give me a little tighter bottom in the OD channel at the expense of possibly making the cleans a little more stiff. It's a balancing act.

The amp sounds so good now but I know it can be even better. I hope Nik makes this part of the standard circuit because it will remove complaints folks have about it being too aggressive and bright. Basically, when these changes are done, the amp should kill because the transformers appear to be incredible quality.
77  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Ceriatone Tweaked on: April 25, 2008, 12:59:04 PM
Jack, one more question, what is the voltage of the 330pf?

All parts rated for 500v unless otherwise specified.

Latest Tweaks:

    * Changed the treble cap from 330pf to 390pf (like dumble)
    * Tacked a 1uf cap across the 2 2.2uf cathode bypass caps. (Awaiting 4.7uf from mouser)
    * Changed the 150k resistor before the ratio control to a 180k
    * changed the 2.2k PS dropping resistor to 3.9k. (Awaiting a 3.3k from mouser)
    * Changed 1k power tube screen grid resistors to 470ohm

Another round of HUGE improvements. (Clips later). Additionally, it's no longer ice-picky for jazz stuff in the clean channel. Very sweet cleans out of the amp that rival the boutique cleans out of many other amps I've played.

When my mouser order arrives, I'm going to do the complete gamut of changes I've gotten from Gil and Scott and this thing's going to be a monsta!!!
78  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Ceriatone Tweaked on: April 25, 2008, 01:44:21 AM
I've been using emi wizards which are brighter and I really like them. The last 2 clips were done with the wizards. I also have a 2x12 cab coming with greenbacks.
79  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Where is the bias pot located on: April 24, 2008, 06:55:31 PM
I already lowered mine to about 35 but was thinking of going to 30ma. That's what I was setting my fender amps to. I might try EL34s in it too...
80  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Celestion Gold on: April 24, 2008, 06:53:59 PM
I have a 2x12 cab coming with greenbacks. It can be run either open or closed back. I'm hoping it'll get more of a hendrixy sound with my marshall clone but it'll be interesting to hear it with the overtone...

I have just ordered a small cab with a G12M Greenback.

I am curious what it will sound like. I'll post some clips in 3 weeks when it should arrive.

Marin

Mine Greenback cab has more hi end and different low end (probably due to different cab design), overall I would say more Fenderish sounding. I know it sounds stupid but that's how I feel about it.

 Huh?
81  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Where is the bias pot located on: April 24, 2008, 01:46:25 PM
The pot is accessed via flat head screw driver from the outside of the chassis between the power tubes.

Mine doesn't require a screwdriver. It's just a shaft (no knob) sticking out of the bottom. Very convenient to adjust.

By the way, mine was biased at 42ma from the factory using tungsol str 6L6 reissue tubes. Anyone think that's a tad hot?
82  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Ceriatone Tweaked on: April 24, 2008, 01:43:49 PM
Jack, Nice tone!

However, I would need to carefully A/B it with your previous clips to understand the difference. Also, it sounds like you are mixing in the delays differently than before?

Mine is a January model, I wonder which version is it? Huh?


M

The changes I'm after are to get the OD to sound more like the robben OD and to open up the clean sounds so they are not so peaky. Also, I find that with the stock circuit I have to turn the tone control way down on the guitar and keep the treble and presence at 10 O'Clock so ideally I will have more useable tone control range.

Gathered from ampgarage and the brownnote forums, I am armed with the changes necessary to make this amp sound more like robben's dumble ala *ludotone or *uchs or *arole-ann.

When I'm done, I think you guys will find that the amp sounds much more delicious and it's only a few bucks in parts. Hopefully Nik will incorporate the changes back into the production model.

In addition to the values, I'm using carbon film resistors in certain audio-path areas and specic types of caps in other areas to make the tone more musical.

Stay tuned!
83  Ceriatone / Overtone / Ceriatone Tweaked on: April 23, 2008, 11:30:32 PM
made 4 easy changes that made an incredible difference.

   1. Changed the resistor in front of the lead drive from 150k to 220k (In my amp this leads to a 100k pot. In older ceriatones the pot is probably 250k. It should be changed to 100k)
   2. Changed the suppressor caps on the v2 socket from 270pf to 390pf (I didn't have 330pf)
   3. Clipped the 15pf cap on the master
   4. Clipped the cap/resistor across the effect loop

http://www.sheetsofsound.net/demos/ceriatone-tweaked.mp3
84  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Celestion Gold on: April 23, 2008, 08:49:24 PM
...cmon people 1265 is not a bad speaker. Tone is a very personal thing and what is awesome to one person, can be a complete disappointment for others.
This speaker has been proven many many times and if it sounds bad, my vote is there is something wrong with you and not with the gear.

 Cool


There is something wrong with me because I think the 1265 is dark sounding and doesn't sound good with a strat? Whateva.
85  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: All about my Klein-ulator on: April 23, 2008, 06:28:08 PM
Quote from: mklein
I'm working on a version right now that could be powered from the amps PS and mount on the rear of the chassis.  As mentioned, some of the features would be eliminated...but I'm working on something to make it worthwhile.

That'd be great! Let me know if you need a beta tester!

86  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: HRM? on: April 23, 2008, 06:25:57 PM
YMMV of course but I can't really see any disadvantage to having some sort of control  & separate EQ on the Overdrive Channel side of the amp.

Just remember the fender tone stack is a lossy circuit. So that *IS* a disadvantage...
87  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: TC Nova in the loop? on: April 22, 2008, 07:10:37 PM
The Timefactor worked ok in the loop by seting the return to Line level.
88  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: All about my Klein-ulator on: April 22, 2008, 06:42:13 PM
Is there any possibility that this could be fitted into the OTS cab, possibly as part of a modified back panel or similar. To keep it all neatly enclosed in the same box would be really good. The mini-toggle switches would need a rethink, they would be very vulnerable.



It'd be better to have it built right in.  Grin
89  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Other Effects Loop Buffering Options on: April 22, 2008, 06:40:44 PM
why not get the kleinulator?
90  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Celestion Gold on: April 21, 2008, 10:33:29 PM
wait'll you hear the diff when you try a buffered loop...
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