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« on: May 01, 2008, 12:48:47 PM »
Hi
Just ordered a overtone kit from Nik, a couple of days ago...

I'm going to have a cabinet build for two 12" speakers ...

I've been researching the internet, for info about speakers, and I have the following in mind for my cabinet...

First up af Eminence Tonespotter (which is a copy of the G12-65) combined with a eminence governor (to reply to the soft mids of the tonespotter)...

Does any of you have any experience with these two speakers and the Ceriatone overtone special amp???

(read somewhere that Two rocks uses the Eminence Tonespotter speakers, for their amplifiers)

René F

New user on this forum, and soon to be the happy owner of a ceriatone overtone special Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2008, 09:33:43 PM »
Okay after a lot of research I've dropped the governor speakers...

Now Im looking for a second speaker to pair up with the Eminence tonespotter...

Please come with some input/ideas to the second speaker, or maybe another combination involving some other types of speakers..

Thx in advance

René F
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2008, 03:29:43 PM »
anyone tried scumbag? i haven't but my cab maker recommends them
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2008, 01:54:04 AM »
Heres a 2x12 design that sounds freaking great!
http://www.lightshow.cc/explorer/Stuff/Speaker_Cabinet/speaker_cabinet.html
build with Okoume BS1008 13 ply birch plywood or better.

Speakers
Tone Tubby Alnico 12s
http://www.tonetubby.com/
TTs are warm and buttery with clear amazing overtones. Carlos Santana is using these on stage so just about any recent live Santana recording will let you know exactly what they sound like.

A close, less expensive, choice would be
Eminence Patriot Cannabis Rex 12" Guitar Speaker with Hemp Cone
Some sound clips of the cannabis rex can be heard at 
http://www.eminence.com/soundclips.asp
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2008, 11:47:32 AM »
Two Rock use OEM eminence speakers in their cabs, if you can find out which aftermarket unit is the equivalent, I'd be very interested too.

I'd heard that the Red White & Blues is a good match with Dumble type amps and is one I'm considering for when I order an Overtone.

Hopefully only 2-3 months more waiting now - I want to be able to afford to order the Overtone in kit form from Nik and then a custom head cab and 2x12" cab from the guy who's going to build the Overtone once it arrives all at the same time. I had considered various options - from ordering the complete Overtone in a Head Cab from Nik, to ordering it in kit form and building it myself as well as the cabs. At present I've settled on ordering the kit from Nik and having it built by a local amp builder who's a Ceriatone Service Agent and getting him to build the cabs at the same time. That way I minimise both my wait time and my exposure to Import Duty and Tax. The one option I'm still waiting on getting a price on is ordering the amp complete from Nik without a head cab and then getting a local joiner to build the cabs for me, but me finish them myself...
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2008, 08:38:43 PM »
Quote from: Im_Gonna_Try on May 07, 2008, 11:47:32 AM
Two Rock use OEM eminence speakers in their cabs, if you can find out which aftermarket unit is the equivalent, I'd be very interested too.

Tworock uses Emi RW&B speakers. I previously had a love affair with these speakers but lately we've had a falling out.  Grin I now consider them too dark. I have ordered a G1265 to try again. I am going to do some comparison clips between the two speakers and post the results. I'm hoping the ones I had before were counterfeit. Smiley

In the meantime, the wizards I have in another cabinet sound very good though they have the opposite problem. They are a little too bright.
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2008, 06:52:28 AM »
Quote from: jzucker on May 07, 2008, 08:38:43 PM
I have ordered a G1265 to try again. I am going to do some comparison clips between the two speakers and post the results. I'm hoping the ones I had before were counterfeit. Smiley

Some people seem to have unlimited financial resources  Grin

I have heard you need to give those speakers some time (10 hours playing)
I'm gettingm my cab at the end of next week ( I hope). Unfortunatly the amp will take a little longer.
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2008, 11:08:27 AM »
Quote from: jzucker on May 07, 2008, 08:38:43 PM
Tworock uses Emi RW&B speakers. I previously had a love affair with these speakers but lately we've had a falling out.  Grin I now consider them too dark.

Which Two Rock speaker is the RW&B, they have 2 different ones offered, one being slightly brighter than the other. I think I like the idea of mixing 2 different speakers to get the tone I want - Would a RW&B and a Wizard be a good mix?
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2008, 01:40:11 PM »
I've ended up with a Eminence 12" Tonespotter 8 Ohm and a Eminence 12" Cannabis Rex 8 ohm... Going to set them up in seriel...

Going to receive my amp and speakers about a week or two from now, so I'll post my experience with the amp, and speakers

René
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2008, 01:41:59 PM »
The RW&B is this one

http://www.bluearan.co.uk/menu/index.php?id=EMIPATRWB&product=Eminence_Patriot_Series_-_Red_White_and_Blues_120W_12!dquote!_8_ohm&browsemode=manufacturer

currently out of stock tho'
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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2008, 03:11:13 PM »
Quote from: Im_Gonna_Try on May 08, 2008, 11:08:27 AM
Quote from: jzucker on May 07, 2008, 08:38:43 PM
Tworock uses Emi RW&B speakers. I previously had a love affair with these speakers but lately we've had a falling out.  Grin I now consider them too dark.

Which Two Rock speaker is the RW&B, they have 2 different ones offered, one being slightly brighter than the other. I think I like the idea of mixing 2 different speakers to get the tone I want - Would a RW&B and a Wizard be a good mix?

That's news to me. Where is that info listed? Just checked the EMI site. There are not 2 versions offered.
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2008, 03:13:26 PM »
I had posted about a OTS speaker choice a while back, but did not see much response. These Scholz drivers (once broken in) seem to have had some very good responses...

http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?topic=381.0

JT
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2008, 07:32:40 AM »
Quote from: jzucker on May 08, 2008, 03:11:13 PM
Quote from: Im_Gonna_Try on May 08, 2008, 11:08:27 AM
Quote from: jzucker on May 07, 2008, 08:38:43 PM
Tworock uses Emi RW&B speakers. I previously had a love affair with these speakers but lately we've had a falling out.  Grin I now consider them too dark.

Which Two Rock speaker is the RW&B, they have 2 different ones offered, one being slightly brighter than the other. I think I like the idea of mixing 2 different speakers to get the tone I want - Would a RW&B and a Wizard be a good mix?

That's news to me. Where is that info listed? Just checked the EMI site. There are not 2 versions offered.

No, what I mean is that Two Rock offer a choice from 2 different speakers in their cabs:

http://two-rock.com/products/spkrs.html

Logically  only 1 of those 2 could be the equivalent of the Red White & Blues, just trying to figure out which, and what the equivalent of the other speakers would be...
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2008, 08:51:20 AM »
Quote from: Im_Gonna_Try on May 09, 2008, 07:32:40 AM
Quote from: jzucker on May 08, 2008, 03:11:13 PM
Quote from: Im_Gonna_Try on May 08, 2008, 11:08:27 AM
Quote from: jzucker on May 07, 2008, 08:38:43 PM
Tworock uses Emi RW&B speakers. I previously had a love affair with these speakers but lately we've had a falling out.  Grin I now consider them too dark.

Which Two Rock speaker is the RW&B, they have 2 different ones offered, one being slightly brighter than the other. I think I like the idea of mixing 2 different speakers to get the tone I want - Would a RW&B and a Wizard be a good mix?

That's news to me. Where is that info listed? Just checked the EMI site. There are not 2 versions offered.

No, what I mean is that Two Rock offer a choice from 2 different speakers in their cabs:

http://two-rock.com/products/spkrs.html

Logically  only 1 of those 2 could be the equivalent of the Red White & Blues, just trying to figure out which, and what the equivalent of the other speakers would be...

I've read somewhere that two-rocks uses the Eminence tonespotter speaker (which is a clone of af G12-65)... But I can't say for sure...

René
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2008, 11:10:30 AM »
Quote from: René F on May 09, 2008, 08:51:20 AM
Quote from: Im_Gonna_Try on May 09, 2008, 07:32:40 AM
Quote from: jzucker on May 08, 2008, 03:11:13 PM
Quote from: Im_Gonna_Try on May 08, 2008, 11:08:27 AM
Quote from: jzucker on May 07, 2008, 08:38:43 PM
Tworock uses Emi RW&B speakers. I previously had a love affair with these speakers but lately we've had a falling out.  Grin I now consider them too dark.

Which Two Rock speaker is the RW&B, they have 2 different ones offered, one being slightly brighter than the other. I think I like the idea of mixing 2 different speakers to get the tone I want - Would a RW&B and a Wizard be a good mix?

That's news to me. Where is that info listed? Just checked the EMI site. There are not 2 versions offered.

No, what I mean is that Two Rock offer a choice from 2 different speakers in their cabs:

http://two-rock.com/products/spkrs.html

Logically  only 1 of those 2 could be the equivalent of the Red White & Blues, just trying to figure out which, and what the equivalent of the other speakers would be...

I've read somewhere that two-rocks uses the Eminence tonespotter speaker (which is a clone of af G12-65)... But I can't say for sure...

René

I've asked both Eminence and Two Rock and all I get from them is that the Two Rock OEM speakers are a propriatory piece of equipment and they won't publish the specs...
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