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« on: February 01, 2010, 06:07:05 PM »

Erwin made a believer out of me. I don't know which version, HRM, HRM-BM, they sure sound nice for archtop duty with a reverb.

Someone ought to tell some of the big jazz players, like Pat Martino, GB, Rosenwinkel, Metheny and the like. Rosenwinkel especially could benefit, as he often plays with distortion, as well as straight ahead archtop.
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2010, 06:45:38 PM »

My jazz recording was with Non Hrm.
But Bluesmasters have bigger cleans. I heard Larry Carlton play his Bludo(which is a bluesmaster) live. It has awesome cleans.
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2010, 08:39:50 PM »

My jazz recording was with Non Hrm.
But Bluesmasters have bigger cleans. I heard Larry Carlton play his Bludo(which is a bluesmaster) live. It has awesome cleans.

Interesting Larry picked the Bludo for his road duty. He bypassed all the fancy Two Rocks (geez they'd probably name a Signature model after him, $10,000....), Bruno, Glaswerks, Fuchs.... and picked the Bludotone.

I wish Nik would do a partnership with Bludo, maybe offer a kit version and distribution, parts, service etc. Get around those nasty "duty" import fees.

Nik nor Bludo can keep up with demand it seems. Gotta love that, someone is doing well in these horrible times. How many companies can say that?

On a side note, I am well aware of the VAT/Import taxes Europeans pay. If I was a big company like Gibson, PRS Fender I'd open a plant somewhere, perhaps the UK, Holland, Germany etc, making guitars of equal  quality as their American counterparts.  As it is now, most Europeans pay about double for something like a Les Paul.  I'm sure that kills demand, just a little bit  :}
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2010, 11:58:18 AM »

Ceriatone and Bludo collaboration Huh? Why?
Nik makes OTS almost three times cheaper then Brandon and quality is pretty similar and it’s much cheaper to import amps from Asia then US. I know. I’ve played several two Rocks, Fuchs, Skrydstrup and bludos, including Larry’s one side by side with OTS.

Japanese in 80’s used to built much more high quality “gibsons and fenders” then original US companies.   In UK there are couple of instrument  builders who build better quality guitars and basses then in US, Patrick Eggle and Status comes to mind. But people desire NAMES and “made in US” label  more then quality this days.

By the way I’ve played Robben’s (actually Larry’s) Gibson with $100 000 price tag on it side by side with Robben's Sakashta Nu Paul and Sakashta was MUCH better instrument in every way.

No offence my US friend, just facts.
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2010, 05:45:21 PM »

Ceriatone and Bludo collaboration Huh? Why?

Why not? Nik could get a tube effects loop and Bludo could get a whole new kit based line and royalties.
It might be "cool", who knows?

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Nik makes OTS almost three times cheaper then Brandon and quality is pretty similar and it’s much cheaper to import amps from Asia then US. I know. I’ve played several two Rocks, Fuchs, Skrydstrup and bludos, including Larry’s one side by side with OTS.

And the Ceriatone was  every bit as good? Not everyone on the  Gear Page  would agree, but what do they know?


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Japanese in 80’s used to built much more high quality “gibsons and fenders” then original US companies.   

Maybe, up to '86. Gibson has been pretty good since being freed of Norlin. I've got a LP , SG, ES175 and L5 from the 1990s, and they are all super fine guitars. Each and every one.

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By the way I’ve played Robben’s (actually Larry’s) Gibson with $100 000 price tag on it side by side with Robben's Sakashta Nu Paul and Sakashta was MUCH better instrument in every way.

No offence my US friend, just facts.


I'm not much for ES335s. I've been playing guitar longer than most here have been alive too. 

I can't get over that reversed pickguard on the Japanese LP copy. Is that how they avoid another lawsuit from Gibson? Gibson shut down Ibanez, also shutdown PRS's line of "singlecut" guitars for years too.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2010, 09:23:46 PM »

Robben´s Sakashta is not a Japanese LP copy at all. It´s built by one of the finest luthiers in the business and is made in the USA (although Taku Sakashta is indeed japanese). Not that it would matter to me, if it was indeed built in Japan. It does look like a LP, but only on the outside. But I wouldn´t call it a copy, but only inspired by the LP design. There are quite a few differences in the looks. Enough not to be taken for a Gibson, IMHO.

Every part is meticulously chosen. Woods, hardware, electronics. It´s chambered. And built to perfection. It costs around USD 10.000,00. I wished I could afford one.... but it´s way over my budget...
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2010, 03:06:17 AM »

Robben´s Sakashta is not a Japanese LP copy at all. It´s built by one of the finest luthiers in the business and is made in the USA (although Taku Sakashta is indeed japanese). Not that it would matter to me, if it was indeed built in Japan. It does look like a LP, but only on the outside. But I wouldn´t call it a copy, but only inspired by the LP design. There are quite a few differences in the looks. Enough not to be taken for a Gibson, IMHO.

Every part is meticulously chosen. Woods, hardware, electronics. It´s chambered. And built to perfection. It costs around USD 10.000,00. I wished I could afford one.... but it´s way over my budget...

I'm kind of of the opinion solid body guitars shouldn't cost anywhere  near that. Archtop jazz boxes yes, Les Pauls and variations, no. Sorry. Crank up the distortion and one humbucking equipped  guitar sounds awfully similar to the next. Even a Les Paul and an PRS.

Don't get me wrong. If someone wants to donate a '59 Michael Bloomfield Reissue LP, gloss finish, I'd love one. $7300? You kiddin' me?
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2010, 09:30:22 AM »

Robben´s Sakashta is not a Japanese LP copy at all. It´s built by one of the finest luthiers in the business and is made in the USA (although Taku Sakashta is indeed japanese). Not that it would matter to me, if it was indeed built in Japan. It does look like a LP, but only on the outside. But I wouldn´t call it a copy, but only inspired by the LP design. There are quite a few differences in the looks. Enough not to be taken for a Gibson, IMHO.

Every part is meticulously chosen. Woods, hardware, electronics. It´s chambered. And built to perfection. It costs around USD 10.000,00. I wished I could afford one.... but it´s way over my budget...

I'm kind of of the opinion solid body guitars shouldn't cost anywhere  near that. Archtop jazz boxes yes, Les Pauls and variations, no. Sorry. Crank up the distortion and one humbucking equipped  guitar sounds awfully similar to the next. Even a Les Paul and an PRS.

Don't get me wrong. If someone wants to donate a '59 Michael Bloomfield Reissue LP, gloss finish, I'd love one. $7300? You kiddin' me?

Why are your remarks often provokative and premature?? IMO an utterly waste of other forum members time??
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« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2010, 02:41:27 PM »

Why are your remarks often provokative and premature?? IMO an utterly waster of other forummembers time??

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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2010, 07:13:11 PM »

Robben´s Sakashta is not a Japanese LP copy at all. It´s built by one of the finest luthiers in the business and is made in the USA (although Taku Sakashta is indeed japanese). Not that it would matter to me, if it was indeed built in Japan. It does look like a LP, but only on the outside. But I wouldn´t call it a copy, but only inspired by the LP design. There are quite a few differences in the looks. Enough not to be taken for a Gibson, IMHO.

Every part is meticulously chosen. Woods, hardware, electronics. It´s chambered. And built to perfection. It costs around USD 10.000,00. I wished I could afford one.... but it´s way over my budget...

I'm kind of of the opinion solid body guitars shouldn't cost anywhere  near that. Archtop jazz boxes yes, Les Pauls and variations, no. Sorry. Crank up the distortion and one humbucking equipped  guitar sounds awfully similar to the next. Even a Les Paul and an PRS.

Don't get me wrong. If someone wants to donate a '59 Michael Bloomfield Reissue LP, gloss finish, I'd love one. $7300? You kiddin' me?

Why are your remarks often provokative and premature?? IMO an utterly waste of other forum members time??


OK, make yourself  happy and pay $10,000 for a Les Paul copy. Subsequently, feel  free to brag about it on The Gear Page.

Like I said, I'm of the opinion no solid body guitar should cost that much. No where near that much, when a $2500 LP would do equally well.

Let me know if you'd like to discuss arcthop guitars next.
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2010, 07:14:26 PM »

Why are your remarks often provokative and premature?? IMO an utterly waster of other forummembers time??

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As in losers.

Nice L6S from the 70s there. I'm sure you need a real Dumble to bring out the tone.
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2010, 08:22:18 PM »

Why are your remarks often provokative and premature?? IMO an utterly waster of other forummembers time??

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As in losers.

Nice L6S from the 70s there. I'm sure you need a real Dumble to bring out the tone.
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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2010, 08:58:37 PM »

Why are your remarks often provokative and premature?? IMO an utterly waster of other forummembers time??

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As in losers.

Nice L6S from the 70s there. I'm sure you need a real Dumble to bring out the tone.
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So you don't want  to talk about archtops. I understand. How  about the Schrodinger Wave Equation? Always a hot topic on guitar boards.
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2010, 09:43:52 PM »

Why are your remarks often provokative and premature?? IMO an utterly waster of other forummembers time??

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Nice L6S from the 70s there. I'm sure you need a real Dumble to bring out the tone.
Hey, yospam,

Tone is in the hands of the player not in the amp! Believe me I can make cheap transistor amp sound pretty nice. Here is an example.


Now you show us what you can do music wise instead of cheap talk about how quantum state of a physical system changes in time, subject about I personally don’t give a shite!!!
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2010, 09:54:07 PM »

Why are your remarks often provokative and premature?? IMO an utterly waster of other forummembers time??

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As in losers.

Nice L6S from the 70s there. I'm sure you need a real Dumble to bring out the tone.
Hey, yospam,

Tone is in the hands of the player not in the amp! Believe me I can make cheap transistor amp sound pretty nice. Here is an example.


Now you show us what you can do music wise instead of cheap talk about how quantum state of a physical system changes in time, subject about I personally don’t give a shite!!!


That is good. Transistor amp you say? Not an Ethos? SansAMP?

As for me, I'm a jazz  and fusion player, not much the blues player. You wouldn't like me. I even play fast at times, like Larry Carlton used to, before he was shot in the throat. I'm the kind of guy that would much rather listen to Kurt Rosenwinkel than Jimi Hendrix, who has always bored me to tears.

Physics is  all around, whether or not you accept its existence. If you can  make a buck off it, so much the better.
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