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« on: November 22, 2011, 12:20:04 AM »
So.  I have an 18 watt EF86 TMB and Super Champ amps.  The clean headroom is pretty negligible on both and definitely not enough to keep up with a drummer.  I need a new amp to play with a band and have plenty of clean headroom for small to medium size venues.  Sometimes I think of just buying an AC30 and calling it a day but, they're big, heavy and I dunno, just can't pull the trigger...

So.  I'm thinking a JMP 50 would be the wya to go.  What do you guys think?  Enough clean headroom? 

Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2011, 03:10:44 AM »
The 5E7, 5F4,  the Hey Whats or an OTS come to mind when I think of loud cleans from Nik's lineup.
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Overdrive is like peanut butter. Some like it crunchy, some like it creamy.
Bluesmaster 50 2x12 combo and some guitars.
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2011, 05:14:39 AM »
Fender Bassman Head will do just what you need. The "Bass Channel" is a miracle waiting to happen. It does not take much to change that first side into a great lead channel.
AND......they are amazingly affordable.  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2011, 05:59:00 AM »
ooo good point. forgot about the Bassman. good call!
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2011, 06:35:29 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2011, 06:37:53 PM »
Whoops.  Just found the replies..  Thanks!

So, I'm wanting more of the Marshall sound than Fender?  Thoughts on going Marshall?
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2011, 09:20:29 PM »
Quote from: Octopussy on November 22, 2011, 06:37:53 PM
Whoops.  Just found the replies..  Thanks!

So, I'm wanting more of the Marshall sound than Fender?  Thoughts on going Marshall?

A non-master-volume 50-watt Marshall Model 1987 Plexi/JMP should have more than enough clean headroom for small to medium venues.  As a mattter of fact, it doesn't start overdriving until it reaches the point of blowing an audience out of a bar (which are why attenuators are so popular). And even more tweaks ('67 specs, shared vs. split V1 cathodes, etc.) can be done to mellow them out if needed.
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2011, 11:41:19 PM »
The JCM800 2204 has more then enough stage volume for your needs and stays clean as well.

By the way a TW Rockit is a Fender 5F6 or JTM45 or bright channel of an AC30 which I have used the Rockit for many gigs.  To get more head room change the V1 plate from 220k to 100k-120K.

To get a boost function you can add a Cliff jack to switch in a 10uf/25v bypass cap on V1b cathode.

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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2011, 12:21:30 AM »
That's awesome guys.  Thanks for the replies!

So...  I like your thoughts on the Marshalls.  I played a JMP50 combo which was pretty awesome.  I already have a 50/100 watt Mesa Mark II which I need to use an attenuator with.  I would like something that will overdrive without blowing people out and without an attenuator or distortion pedals.  Is this even possible without a channel switching amp?
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2011, 03:58:33 AM »
Sure. Nik's 5X3 is plenty loud for a club but won't take people's heads off. A 5F4 with a 2x10 speakers of lower efficency can stay somewhat clean (it shares the same architecture with a few resistor tweaks as the 5E5-A Pro and the 5E7) and then give up the overdriven goodness as well. A 36 Watt  EF86 would be another good one. You could always Get a JTM45 or a 5F6-A amd put a PPIMV on it to get some overdrive (preamp) at lower volumes.

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Overdrive is like peanut butter. Some like it crunchy, some like it creamy.
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