Actually, the Overtone does come closer to the Larry tone than it does to the Robben tone.
M.
Marin, Your such a fine player , I thought you would appreciate that, and I also wanted to ask what tubes you are using, I am thinking of some EL34's, and what are you using for preamp tubes, v1, v2, v3, am I saying that right? JeffreyB-how is it going with your tone thing
Hey, what I am wondering is: why do you want to go for EL34s?
The amp is pretty brown sounding for an 6L6, especially with the stock Tungsol tubes.
But I am sure which higher end tones are you trying to get...?
Your tone is pretty smooth on this clips, almost "G12-65-ish".
Mitch: I record with a SM57 into a Focusrite saffire. There is compression coming from the Mastering software in the final mix. I am also using a Boss DD-3 delay pedal which adds that backslap sizzle which I like. I think that the DD-3, by not being a true-bypass, adds some compression too.
However, the amp does have a lot of natural compression. For me the idea of these amps is to tune in to a semi-clean overdrive which compresses with harder attack. I think you can hear it when I pluck the strings harder.
I agree that they can be too smooth. However, they do work well with the "bright" switch on the Overtone, which people tend not to use with normal speakers.
It brings back that single coils upper end.
Marin
Unfortunately, those speakers can't reproduce the high freq so no matter how much brightness the amp is putting out, they will never have the twangyness to get a really great clean tone. As I said, it's a compromise because they do sound great when heavily distorted. They are also about 1/2 the efficiency of the RW&B speakers. A good compromise might be a RW&B along with a 1265 but the 1265 woudl get buried in the mix.
Jack, this is the tone I mean't when using the bright switch. I still need to keep the treble at 2 for this tone. I am using a 1x12 G12-65 cab:
I agree that they can be too smooth. However, they do work well with the "bright" switch on the Overtone, which people tend not to use with normal speakers.
Marin...you're a badass!!! Would you mind sharing that backing track?..I want to try to post some more clips this week. I'm swapping out my OD drive tube.
Also, I've been curious how you are recording your video and audio? Are you miking the amp and running it into a video/audio editing program? All I've ever been able to do is record with my kodak digital camera in video mode...but It doesn't have any way to use anything other than the crappy built in mic for audio. I have a little pro tools rig, but really no way to sync up video from a video camera.
Thanks for all your help...and your awesome clips!!!
I record audio from the soundcard and video from the camera by selecting different input sources in the video software. You can use Windows Movie Maker which some free with windows (if you use windows)
How foot switable are the clean and overdrive channels?
Are you using the loop?
Does the amp respond better with an attenuator? (I think I see one on top)
What do you mean by footswitchable?
Yes, I am using the loop.
No, I wasn't using the attenuator in this one.
M.
as in, can you switch from clean to lead on the fly, the amp is supposed to have a foot swich for that. (Nik told me mine was going to anyway, when it ever shows up)
what effect unit do you have in the loop? a picture of it maybe?
you can switch between channels and boost each of the channels with the 2nd switch.
the pedal is a Boss DD-3. You can find a picture on the Boss website.
sounds very good marin...but i'm still hearing a little roughness in the tone sort of like what i've been experiencing...it's certainly a nice tone, just not quite what i was hoping for. i'm going to try a different preamp tube in the overdrive section, and play around with the od trimmer.
I really think that spm is nailing the tone that I want!!!
I think I understand what your problem may be....the overtone works better with some pickups than with others. The OT is voiced with a pronounced midrange (around 3,5khz, I hear) so some of my "midrange" pickups tends to interact somehow with the OD of the OT and can create that strong midrangey spike (or "roughness" as you may say),
I'm a "midrange" guy, so I actually like that. You seem to go for Sami's tone which is a little bit dark for me.
I think that you should try with a PAF type pickup like a Gibson 57.
Whats pickups are you using now? Have you tried another guitar?
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