Fuchs ODS 30 is a lovely amp but tone wise Ceratone OTS, HRM and BM HRM are much fuller, richer sounding amps both in clean and OD department. Fuchs is smaller, lighter, has built in reverb and buffered FX loop though, bu it is also more expencive. You are from UK, why don't you try a Volt amp?
You've played a few Fuchs on your side of the pond? They used to be a good deal, now there's many alternatives.
That is a hard question for me to answer... I like both amps... they are different and each one has different qualities. If I would have to live with one amp only, I would choose BM... but on the other hand, I'm glad I'm fortunate enough to have both. Coming back to your question... I guess OTS does sound a little better... perhaps. I think it's the mids with OTS... it makes the amp sound big but when you really open it up it a bit to much.
...but you know what, I just came from "my room" a few minutes ago and I was playing my BM at speaking volume and I was happy with the tone, so go figure...
Thanks mcinku. You and Erwin are the authorities on this stuff.
I think I'll go with a plain 50 watt HRM, not the BM.
BM seems to be the wave of the future though, Ceriatone and competitors. FlexiPlexi OD in a Bludotone? Is that "HAD" approved?
I've never heard a really respectable lead tone from an OTS with a strat at bedroom volume. I havehoweverwith a dumblelator in the loop with a humbucking geetar.
The real magic with the OTS is at stage volume I'm afraid.
Jim
Gotta disagree Jim, after hearing several clips from Marin Blues on YouTube.
One has to wonder, how loud did Robben Ford turn up his Dumble in the studio when he recorded "Talk to Your Daughter"?
Hey watch it. This is not the amp garage of TGP. this is a friendly place!
Hey Steven, I totally agree with you, but this new member "yosemitespam" really annoies me. All his posts are provocative and premature. He really spoils the fun. I'll ask Nik to expell him instead.
We usually have a calm and helpfull atmosphere around here.
Wow, I was thinking of asking Nik to expel you. Like minds think alike, it would appear.
I suspect you don't like me because I play scales with 2 more notes in them. You might like the same scales, if you gave them a chance.
I definitely don’t have a reading problem, you must have it, because I clearly explained in one of the previous post that flexiplex is an overdrive channel configuration of the Bludotone bluesmaster amp which makes it sound like a milder Marshall Plexi.
Best wishes
I see. A variation of Bludotone. I did not know.
I must confess I don't understand why some people prefer Dumble clones that sound more like a Marshall, than let's say an ODS, Fender or Boogie. I've never been a fan of Marshall amps, and I couldn't be less of a Marshall fan today. Compare Hendrix in 1969 to Santana in 1974. That's what I'm talking about.
Marshall never did seem to get the whole master volume thing. I'm not sure what a "classic" Marshall distortion sound sounds like.
PLease tone down your rhetoric yos. You are trying to incite a response in order to have a flame war. Not appreciated on here. This is not tgp and to my knowledge no thread has had to be taken down because of this sort of nonsense.
We talk about amps, we talk about tone. We DO NOT demean other peoples opinions.
Don't rise to it Doc, please.
Nobody demeaned anyone until I said $10,000 was too much to pay for a solid body guitar.
Glad I didn't say $50,000 was too much to pay for a real Dumble! Imagine all the hate mail I'd get!
Thankfully we have Nik instead. Think of Nik as providing for your child's college education. $49,000 doesn't go as far as it once did, but we'll take it.
Hmmmm, Saint Nik isn't too far fetched. I say we make it so when his tube D-lator hits the market, soon, $160 did I hear?
Hey, you must be my long lost younger brother! I play jazz fusion too and nobody plays faster then me – Here we go http://www.drika.biz/john.mp3 Talk is cheap, show me what you can do, post your clips, I might like it.
No, you're trolling for anything to use against me. I don't play that game. I need not prove anything to non-perfect strangers on the net, who mean nothing to me.
I do own an archtop worth more than 10 OTSs however. I rather like it.
This is the Bludo that Matt was using on his last tour. Very different settings to his TR. Each amp will sound different, you just need to find your own settings
Hey Hywell, that looks like Larry’s amp (bluesmaster with flexiplex OD) which I’ve played when he was in London. It had an enormous bass response and pretty mild overdrive. I’m not surprised Matt has turned bass down and OD up.
What is a flexiplex OD
Think of old Marshal plexi without diode clipping on drive – less gain and more open, milder tone. Actually think of Hendrix amp with KT66s but milder.
[flexiplex OD] As in an external pedal, e.g. fuzzbox? If so, I find that really strange one would need to embellish the overdrive of a Dumble clone with an extra gain stage.
I haven't seen Carlton with his Bludotone setup. I've seen him many times with Dumbles and even Boogies.
I must confess, his music hasn't interested me much in quite some time. I last saw him 4 years ago, I have no desire to see him now. The tour with Ford might have been good, if they had practiced together, beforehand. Obviously, they didn't, and I'm very disappointed in the outcome.
Hey Yo! You must be an old hippy smoking to much grass!!! What extra gain stage? What are you talking about? Oh, Oh, sorry! Probably your real name is Mr. Alegzonder Dumb and now I understand why you don’t like Carlton and Ford any more. One plays Bludo and another one Fenders and soon they will start to play CERIATONE which would be great. No offence, we love you anyway!.
OK, reading comprehension isn't your forte. Let's try it again, really slowly this time.
What is Flexiplex OD? Is it a pedal? An amp? What the F is it? A figment of your imagination?
I've seen Carlton with Dumbles, I've seen him with Boogies, never with Bludotones, so you have me at a disadvantage.
However, being considerable older than you, I have had the advantage of seeing Carlton play, when he was actually making good music, as opposed to his present day blues wankery, which sucks on a good day.
Sorry if you do have reading problems. I usually don't make sport of such.
Why are your remarks often provokative and premature?? IMO an utterly waster of other forummembers time??
+1 !!!
Getting back to the subject matter, how much difference with the gain cranked up, do you think you'd hear, from Ford's LP copy, to a real $300,000 '59 Les Paul, to even a PRS?
If my SG, LP and PRS are any examples, the difference isn't much, especially between the Gibsons. Thus, I find it hard to justify buying the Michael Bloomfield '59 LP for $7300.
Amps area different matter, I could see owning a few OTS models alone, along with some competitors.
Why are your remarks often provokative and premature?? IMO an utterly waster of other forummembers time??
+1 !!!
-2
As in losers.
Nice L6S from the 70s there. I'm sure you need a real Dumble to bring out the tone.
Hey, yospam,
Tone is in the hands of the player not in the amp! Believe me I can make cheap transistor amp sound pretty nice. Here is an example.
Now you show us what you can do music wise instead of cheap talk about how quantum state of a physical system changes in time, subject about I personally don’t give a shite!!!
That is good. Transistor amp you say? Not an Ethos? SansAMP?
As for me, I'm a jazz and fusion player, not much the blues player. You wouldn't like me. I even play fast at times, like Larry Carlton used to, before he was shot in the throat. I'm the kind of guy that would much rather listen to Kurt Rosenwinkel than Jimi Hendrix, who has always bored me to tears.
Physics is all around, whether or not you accept its existence. If you can make a buck off it, so much the better.
True to be told is that all tube amps out there, perform way better when they are played loud... all of them, even 5W Champ for example. ...but it is also true, that OTS is an amp which sounds decent at bedroom level as well... and that's without any power scaling device.
You've played all the OTS variations. Which the better for lower volumes? I suspect the OTS considerably better than the Blues Master, being more "compressed"? Doesn't make a difference? Thanks kind sir, as you've been places few have.
This is the Bludo that Matt was using on his last tour. Very different settings to his TR. Each amp will sound different, you just need to find your own settings
Hey Hywell, that looks like Larry’s amp (bluesmaster with flexiplex OD) which I’ve played when he was in London. It had an enormous bass response and pretty mild overdrive. I’m not surprised Matt has turned bass down and OD up.
What is a flexiplex OD
Think of old Marshal plexi without diode clipping on drive – less gain and more open, milder tone. Actually think of Hendrix amp with KT66s but milder.
[flexiplex OD] As in an external pedal, e.g. fuzzbox? If so, I find that really strange one would need to embellish the overdrive of a Dumble clone with an extra gain stage.
I haven't seen Carlton with his Bludotone setup. I've seen him many times with Dumbles and even Boogies.
I must confess, his music hasn't interested me much in quite some time. I last saw him 4 years ago, I have no desire to see him now. The tour with Ford might have been good, if they had practiced together, beforehand. Obviously, they didn't, and I'm very disappointed in the outcome.
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