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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2011, 07:26:23 PM »
I used this OT

http://www.classictone.net/40-18001.pdf

And this choke

http://www.classictone.net/40-18003.pdf
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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2011, 07:55:07 PM »
Hey I was just looking up PT specs for that 40-18029

What did you do for the 50v bias winding?

I do not see a 50v tap on this PT

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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2011, 07:56:08 PM »
Sorry last post was directed @ MrGoldtop

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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2011, 08:13:07 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2011, 09:15:51 PM »
WOW
one thing I do not like about MC is the way they do they're spec sheets.

Thanks MrGoldtop

Now I know what to use for my next OTS build ( someday )

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« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2011, 08:36:17 PM »
Hi everyone,

Whats the difference between the FM and the FM "Modern Eagle Mod"? Or is it the same? Huh?
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« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2011, 09:00:03 PM »
A few components were changed from the original FM to make it less bright!
Modern eagle will be just a hair darker than the regular FM
Couple caps and a couple resistors! Thats all

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« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2011, 10:02:37 PM »
Negative feedback in the clean channel is switchable on the Modern Eagle Mod.
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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2011, 07:28:51 AM »
Quote from: T Wilcox on May 23, 2011, 09:00:03 PM
A few components were changed from the original FM to make it less bright!
Modern eagle will be just a hair darker than the regular FM
Couple caps and a couple resistors! Thats all

Todd
Less bright is good. I would use this amp with a 2x12" box, loaded with evm 12l's. Where is the switch for the negative feedback, inside? How does switch change the tone?
Thanks!
Regards from germany, Achim
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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2011, 05:56:24 PM »
Quote from: achim1 on May 24, 2011, 07:28:51 AM
Where is the switch for the negative feedback, inside? How does switch change the tone?
It's between V1 and V2 on the underside of the chassis.
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« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2011, 09:30:30 PM »
The change in tone is somewhat subtle when using the LNFB switch.
What I have noticed is with it off the amp is more dumbley sounding, and on its gives it a little more hair so to speak.
I like it better off, but its nice to have anyways.

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« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2011, 12:23:36 AM »
Also here is a link to some technical data that possibly shows the LNFB plays a larger role when using a buffered loop like the d-lator. It's still subtle, but I did sort of notice that the difference with the LNFB was more pronounced once I had a buffered loop in place. http://ampgarage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14837
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« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2011, 07:16:48 PM »
Well, I've been reading through the forums, listening to sound clips, and watching video demos, and it hasn't really nailed down that this is THE BEST CHOICE.

I play contemporary Praise and Worship every week (3, and very soon 4 services a week).  The tones go from clean and chimey, to clean and benign (Jazz cleans), to mild OD, to power ballad OD, to cutting OD, to sustaining cleans for slide (once in a while), to you name it.  I know I'm going to use a Smartulator/C-lator because you HAVE TO USE DELAY, REVERB, and COMPRESSION (and sometimes a touch of something else) with the modern stuff.  I use the tone control a lot for some of it, but volume control is currently out of an expression pedal.  I have three different OD pedals: an OCD, A TS909 Reissue, and Zen 1 OD (mild/rhythm OD, Power OD, and cutting tone/boost respectively) into a Bill M modded Blues Jr (great and versatile version of a decent amp).  I know I can use all the effects in the loop of the new amp for sound options, but I would like to have a good amp driven tone from my OTS when I get it...  Not just have "clean monitor" on the back side of pedals.  I wouldn't need to spend the money for that...

So here's the dilema... Of the Non-HRM OTS line I feel the Mod Eagle 50 head with C-lator is the way to go, but I've heard some equally good things about the HRM (BM and not) and the OD shaping options.

Question is:  With what I've described, which way would the folks with these amps lean?  HRM?, HRM BM?, OTS50 FM ME?

I'll be emailing Nik over the weekend to get his suggestions...

Thanks everyone~~~
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« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2011, 03:50:18 AM »
Kevster

I dont think anyone will tell you which one to get.
This is your decision!

Now you got a couple weeks to ask as many questions, watch as many clips as possible to make up your mind if you want a kit.

Whichever one you choose will be a good choice

Todd
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« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2011, 01:42:41 PM »
Quote from: T Wilcox on May 27, 2011, 03:50:18 AM
Kevster

I dont think anyone will tell you which one to get.
This is your decision!

Now you got a couple weeks to ask as many questions, watch as many clips as possible to make up your mind if you want a kit.

Whichever one you choose will be a good choice

Todd
Todd,

I don't expect someone to make the decision.  I just hoped somebody had a chance to A/B the two and could give me perspective... I know any of them would be a great amp, I'm just thorough...

Since you won't be using your for about 6 weeks, is it OK if I borrow it? Grin Shocked Huh?
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