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« on: October 25, 2008, 11:12:07 AM »
Hi Guys

I have a TC Electronic G-Sharp. Sounds pretty good, but you can't set the volume level of individual presets. I use this to change from rythm to lead sounds.

I decided to order a Rocktron Xpression. It has an internal parallel routing (mixer). So your direct sginal doesn't go through an A/D converter, but stays analog straight to the output. Only the effect passes through the processing.

Any expereriences with this or comparable (Intellifex) units?

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Steven
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2008, 12:52:30 PM »
I use an Intellifex in the loop.
Mixer dry at 0.0 for normal use and +4.5 for solos works great for me.
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2008, 12:55:41 PM »
Hi Dave
do you notice that the fx are serial. So the clean signal is unaffected (no tone suck etc)?
Enough level in the loop?
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2008, 03:30:44 PM »
I don't use my kleinulator, tone is great.
Output is enough for my band needs, but if you play in a really loud band some more output
from the Intellifex would be better.
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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2008, 08:07:18 AM »
a short review

Pros:
Analog dry signal!! The dry signal goes straight to the output. Only the wet signal goes through the A/D converter and FX processor. No tone suck!
you don't need a Kleinulator to get enough signal from your fx loop.
output -10/+4dB
effects are good quality
quiet
did I mention the analog dry signal

Cons:
Programming is a pain in the ***
hardly any decent presets
only 1 reverb
what the f*** is 2 voice chorus?

Steven
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2008, 04:03:42 PM »
How many Reverbs do you need?  Just one that sounds good ;-)

I hate chorus so I don't use it, instead I use pitchshift +4% and -4% this gives a more natural
chorus where the sweepfrequency varies with the played pitch.
2 Voice Chorus are two modulated delay lines, gives a bigger chorus sound.
Original Intellifex has an 8 Voice Chorus...

Programming is easy, just need to scroll a lot. There are PC-editors to make this easier.
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2008, 09:23:26 PM »
Steven, having that analog dry signal is a big deal.  Me thinks you will learn to work around the other stuff!  :-)
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2008, 12:05:09 PM »
Quote from: bluegate on October 31, 2008, 04:03:42 PM
How many Reverbs do you need?  Just one that sounds good ;-)

I hate chorus so I don't use it, instead I use pitchshift +4% and -4% this gives a more natural
chorus where the sweepfrequency varies with the played pitch.
2 Voice Chorus are two modulated delay lines, gives a bigger chorus sound.
Original Intellifex has an 8 Voice Chorus...

Programming is easy, just need to scroll a lot. There are PC-editors to make this easier.



Hi Dave
Wouldn't you need a stereo pitch shifter to do that?

I think there's no PC editor for the Xpression.
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2008, 07:59:02 PM »
Yes, I don't know if the expression has a two voice pitchshifter but my Intellifex does the trick.
I have an old blackface Intellifex I bought for 69 Euro...  Grin
Like it even better than my 3 Eventides I have owned.

Today I ordered parts for a new amp I'm building.
It's based on a Trainwreck Express, hopefully the parts will arrive this week.
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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2008, 01:46:01 PM »
Only 1 pitch shifter on the xpression

this seems an interesting aproach

at 3.20 minutes
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