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« on: May 30, 2008, 10:23:53 AM »

Just took a look at Niks website. There's a new Overtone 100 now
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2008, 12:30:41 PM »

Four 6L6's....looks tasty!!

Any idea how that will sound compared to the 50 - presumably the cleans will have more headroom.

I wonder if it's got the same mods done to it as the 50W model - at leas tthe ones that apply...

Decisions, decisions - it would mean another month of saving - but would it be worth it?
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2008, 06:55:24 PM »

Yeah look tasty.

I'm waiting for my Overtone, should arrive in 1 or 2 weeks (maybe one weeks more as nik says (delayed Cry)

I hope 50W will be enought for me (blues/rock/pop band with bass, drums, organ an a singer).
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2008, 12:15:45 AM »

Yeah look tasty.

I'm waiting for my Overtone, should arrive in 1 or 2 weeks (maybe one weeks more as nik says (delayed Cry)

I hope 50W will be enought for me (blues/rock/pop band with bass, drums, organ an a singer).

Don't think you'll have any problems there, they have plenty of headroom I reckon.

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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2008, 08:26:25 AM »

same crucial question for me. as am just about to order an Overtone.
50 or 100 watts ?
Maybe the best of both worlds, a 100 watts, with a half power switch ?
What you all think ??
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2008, 08:32:50 AM »

Yeah look tasty.

I'm waiting for my Overtone, should arrive in 1 or 2 weeks (maybe one weeks more as nik says (delayed Cry)

I hope 50W will be enought for me (blues/rock/pop band with bass, drums, organ an a singer).

Don't think you'll have any problems there, they have plenty of headroom I reckon.

Cat

Thanks

I'm wondering if the 50W version can be mod to the 100W version with few mods ? (hmm maybe the OT can't be used with 4 6L6).
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« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2008, 07:19:03 PM »

Yeah look tasty.

I'm waiting for my Overtone, should arrive in 1 or 2 weeks (maybe one weeks more as nik says (delayed Cry)

I hope 50W will be enought for me (blues/rock/pop band with bass, drums, organ an a singer).

Don't think you'll have any problems there, they have plenty of headroom I reckon.

Cat

Thanks

I'm wondering if the 50W version can be mod to the 100W version with few mods ? (hmm maybe the OT can't be used with 4 6L6).

Thats a good question. I just realized that he now makes a 100 version and I just received the shipping notice for a 50. What do you think the chances are that Nik would provide a BOM for parts needed to modify the 50 for 100?
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« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2008, 07:36:17 PM »

Nik always answers to e-mail
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« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2008, 08:49:08 PM »

In terms of 50 to 100w conversion, anything is possible, but it would likely involve a new output transformer and possibly a new power transformer, but the other changes would be small.
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« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2008, 10:15:52 PM »

Yeah look tasty.

I'm waiting for my Overtone, should arrive in 1 or 2 weeks (maybe one weeks more as nik says (delayed Cry)

I hope 50W will be enought for me (blues/rock/pop band with bass, drums, organ an a singer).

I play in a band with the same format. We rehearse in an insulated 24 x 36 metal building. I can't get the 50W OTS above 1.5  Volume and Master, with (Bright, Deep & Rock, Overdrive on, Pre-amp boost off) without blowing everybody out the door. At a fairly large club with a raised stage and about a 200 person capacity I was able to crank it up to 3 (after the place was full). I have taken to leaving all the switches off(Overdrive on), Cranking the Volume to 5 with the master at 2 (overdrive on), and use the pre-amp boost switch or Full Drive 2 as needed. 

It is inconceivable to me as to why any one needs a 100W amp (except for their own enjoyment?Huh?). An 18W amp miked to the PA is good enough for just about anything.   I used to play a cranked Twin Reverb, now I can't figured out how that volume level was tolerated back then.   
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« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2008, 10:37:57 PM »

Yeah look tasty.

I'm waiting for my Overtone, should arrive in 1 or 2 weeks (maybe one weeks more as nik says (delayed Cry)

I hope 50W will be enought for me (blues/rock/pop band with bass, drums, organ an a singer).

I play in a band with the same format. We rehearse in an insulated 24 x 36 metal building. I can't get the 50W OTS above 1.5  Volume and Master, with (Bright, Deep & Rock, Overdrive on, Pre-amp boost off) without blowing everybody out the door. At a fairly large club with a raised stage and about a 200 person capacity I was able to crank it up to 3 (after the place was full). I have taken to leaving all the switches off(Overdrive on), Cranking the Volume to 5 with the master at 2 (overdrive on), and use the pre-amp boost switch or Full Drive 2 as needed. 

It is inconceivable to me as to why any one needs a 100W amp (except for their own enjoyment?Huh?). An 18W amp miked to the PA is good enough for just about anything.   I used to play a cranked Twin Reverb, now I can't figured out how that volume level was tolerated back then.   

100W are here for clean head room, not to be crancked up !
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2008, 01:40:17 PM »

100w  !!!  Huh?   What did you say?Huh?

50W is so loud, it would be OK for anything i think.  I think a 30W version would be nice .



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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2008, 07:21:52 PM »

100 watts is only about 3dB louder, and you could make a standard overtone 22 watts if you swap out the tubes for 6V6's you just need to change the impedance selector on the amp because theres an impedance mismatch.
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2008, 01:50:52 AM »

Wouldn't you expect the tone of the OTS to change, if 6V6's were used? They change the tone of my THD Bivalve significantly.
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2008, 04:56:54 PM »

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I can't get the 50W OTS above 1.5  Volume and Master, with (Bright, Deep & Rock, Overdrive on, Pre-amp boost off) without blowing everybody out the door.

I´m surprised you say that. I find my OTS less loud than my 18w (haven´t tried the OTS at full volume yet). Actually I´m playing it at 3 volume and 3 Master volume. And it´s still not that loud (playing at apartment volume). I´m beginning to think there´s something wrong with my amp...
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