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Title: EV 1x12 thiele cab double micing sound test
Post by: Pickmaster on December 17, 2010, 01:36:54 PM
This cab is my favourite so far – compact, powerful, tone rich and sturdy.

(http://www.guitarampcab.com/lmcab.jpg)

Here are the sound samples of the two built in mic capsules, one is on and another is off axis. Best result is when both are recorded (PA-ed) together.

(http://www.guitarampcab.com/lmcab2.jpg)

1. Off axis sample followed by same phrase on axis.
http://www.guitarampcab.com/ottest2.mp3

2. Simultaneous recording with both mics slightly paned left and right.
http://www.guitarampcab.com/ottest1.mp3


Title: Re: EV 1x12 thiele cab double micing sound test
Post by: MaxBoogie on January 02, 2011, 04:49:34 AM
That could be some of the nicest cleans I've ever heard!
Which head are you using here?


Title: Re: EV 1x12 thiele cab double micing sound test
Post by: erwin_ve on January 02, 2011, 12:58:40 PM
Somehow I missed this; very nice clean tones. The od sound is not as smooth as your live gig you posted a while ago. Different amp?


Title: Re: EV 1x12 thiele cab double micing sound test
Post by: Pickmaster on January 02, 2011, 12:59:42 PM
That could be some of the nicest cleans I've ever heard!
Which head are you using here?

Thanks Max,

Head is 100w OTS with Mercury transformers and chock.
(http://www.guitarampcab.com/lmonsta4.jpg)


Title: Re: EV 1x12 thiele cab double micing sound test
Post by: Pickmaster on January 02, 2011, 01:03:00 PM
Somehow I missed this; very nice clean tones. The od sound is not as smooth as your live gig you posted a while ago. Different amp?

I'v left 12 way OD filter totaly open.
It can go as smooth as you want :chairdance:


Title: Re: EV 1x12 thiele cab double micing sound test
Post by: erwin_ve on January 02, 2011, 01:05:47 PM
Ok I understand! Thanks for sharing. I love the EVM12L too and your cab looks delicious. :)


Title: Re: EV 1x12 thiele cab double micing sound test
Post by: hywelg on January 02, 2011, 03:33:17 PM
How much of a difference do you reckon those MM's are making Doc?


Title: Re: EV 1x12 thiele cab double micing sound test
Post by: Pickmaster on January 02, 2011, 08:24:57 PM
How much of a difference do you reckon those MM's are making Doc?


Hi Hywel,

At home and small club moderate volume levels (master level on2 or 3) it does not make much difference, but when I play loud – master at 5. MM are much bigger, cleaner and articulate. I was pleasantly surprised.


Title: Re: EV 1x12 thiele cab double micing sound test
Post by: Pickmaster on January 04, 2011, 02:59:05 AM
Somehow I missed this; very nice clean tones. The od sound is not as smooth as your live gig you posted a while ago. Different amp?

Here is a video with clean, clean boost (at 1.01) and drive (2.15).
Pretty smooth and fat drive tone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj38gwOoQjY


Title: Re: EV 1x12 thiele cab double micing sound test
Post by: erwin_ve on January 05, 2011, 09:05:37 PM
Yeah that's the vid sound I recall. Great sounding and very nice playing as well!

Somehow I missed this; very nice clean tones. The od sound is not as smooth as your live gig you posted a while ago. Different amp?

Here is a video with clean, clean boost (at 1.01) and drive (2.15).
Pretty smooth and fat drive tone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj38gwOoQjY



Title: Re: EV 1x12 thiele cab double micing sound test
Post by: Pickmaster on January 06, 2011, 12:15:57 AM
Thanks Erwin, highly appreciated my man. :)


Title: Re: EV 1x12 thiele cab double micing sound test
Post by: fabien on January 06, 2011, 11:20:46 AM
Gorgeous tone indeed and great groove and playing.

What do you mean by clean boost: just PAB or with a pedal. I think I hear a light od pedal. Deliciously fat and reedy in any case.

Cheers
Fabien


Title: Re: EV 1x12 thiele cab double micing sound test
Post by: Pickmaster on January 06, 2011, 04:41:28 PM
Gorgeous tone indeed and great groove and playing.

What do you mean by clean boost: just PAB or with a pedal. I think I hear a light od pedal. Deliciously fat and reedy in any case.

Cheers
Fabien

Thanks Fabien for your kind comments.
I don’t have PAB in my amps. I hate it, it’s thin and middly, kills amps good tone.
Instead I have a clean volume boost which also affects OD. I can set the desired amount with a pot which is sitting in the FET input hall (I don’t have FET either). See amp’s photo in this thread.
For my taste clean boost is much better and flexible then a PAB. 


Title: Re: EV 1x12 thiele cab double micing sound test
Post by: fabien on January 06, 2011, 09:48:26 PM
Thanks Fabien for your kind comments.
I don’t have PAB in my amps. I hate it, it’s thin and middly, kills amps good tone.
Instead I have a clean volume boost which also affects OD. I can set the desired amount with a pot which is sitting in the FET input hall (I don’t have FET either). See amp’s photo in this thread.
For my taste clean boost is much better and flexible then a PAB. 

True, now that you mention it I had read it already somewhere in one of your post.
Funny that the PAB sounds thin on your amp. On mine (non HRM) it's very warm on the clean channel and could even get muddy on OD if I'm not careful.
I think your amp has evolved to be a very different animal with all your wizzardry. An electronic Darwinisme of some sort perhaps? All for the good anyway


Title: Re: EV 1x12 thiele cab double micing sound test
Post by: Pickmaster on January 07, 2011, 03:46:55 PM
I think your amp has evolved to be a very different animal with all your wizzardry. An electronic Darwinisme of some sort perhaps? All for the good anyway

 ;) :) ;D

Cheers


Title: Re: EV 1x12 thiele cab double micing sound test
Post by: MaxBoogie on January 07, 2011, 05:23:13 PM
I bet it's those KT-88's that really give it a different character.  ;D

This weekend I'm converting one of my amps from 6L6 to EL-34, and testing against a nearly identical amp with KT-66's. Hopefully in a week I'll FINALLY be able to decide how I want to build my Ceriatone!


Title: Re: EV 1x12 thiele cab double micing sound test
Post by: Tone Control on January 07, 2011, 06:56:13 PM
where are the mic capsules from?
Any tips on mounting them?

Cheers
Tone


Title: Re: EV 1x12 thiele cab double micing sound test
Post by: Pickmaster on January 08, 2011, 11:19:02 AM
where are the mic capsules from?
Any tips on mounting them?

Cheers
Tone

Hi Tone,

Capsules are neodymium instrument mic inserts from Germany, custom made copies of a Zenhiser  609. Usually we by them in boxes of 20 for £35 each.

Here you can check out all info about mic mounting and other design tips.
http://www.guitarampcab.com/design.html

Cheers