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Question: What's the the best sounding loop in your opinion?
Kleinulator   -4 (17.4%)
Dumblelator   -16 (69.6%)
Honestly I don't hear a difference.   -3 (13%)
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« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2009, 07:19:31 AM »
Quote from: flexmachine on May 25, 2009, 08:03:27 PM
Anyone uses Fuchs Verbrator? Compared to Klein or the D?
I'm using BM HRM 50 and wonder what to to buy (I can get the Fuchs here in Germany but it's expansive), where did you buy your Dumblelator?
thanks

With some luck I'll have Verbrator in my arms in a few days. A friend of mine bought it... I already own Klein, so I will be able to A/B both of them.

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« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2009, 07:40:49 AM »
Quote from: ampkits on May 26, 2009, 01:30:49 AM
Does this mean I need to do *umbleator? Smiley


It's already in the works, but too much stuff going on here currently.

The chassis is rack type, but made shorter so it'd fit at the bottom of the can (about 7" depth only or so).

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Well I must confess I do think the "umble"does sound a bit better. It reacts to your playing a bit better as well. On the other hand it is a lot more expensive.
It would be great if you could build the unit. Some of us (me) are not so good with a soldering iron.
If you need a tester just let me know :-). Erwin and me could do a/b testing ;-)
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« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2009, 08:27:38 AM »
Quote from: ampkits on May 26, 2009, 01:30:49 AM
Does this mean I need to do *umbleator? Smiley


It's already in the works, but too much stuff going on here currently.

The chassis is rack type, but made shorter so it'd fit at the bottom of the can (about 7" depth only or so).

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Nik


Nik, please consider putting a relay in that rack box to allow for bypass switching. So many effects don't do true bypass and its something that bugs me. You could also consider a relay to bypass the D*ator but that might be contrary to what people want since I guess most would prefer it to be in circuit always.

Also a 9v/12v/18v out would be absolutely marvellous for keeping pedal type effects powered without the need for separate transformers.
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« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2009, 09:08:12 AM »
Quote from: hywelg on May 26, 2009, 08:27:38 AM
Also a 9v/12v/18v out would be absolutely marvellous for keeping pedal type effects powered without the need for separate transformers.

Man that would be nice... I was thinking about this as well... the only difference was, I was planing to do that using the amp it self...
12V can be taken from relay voltage regulator... and this (see pict) could be done for 9V
The only problem is, I don't know how much can that relay power supply board provide (current wise)  Sad

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« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2009, 12:48:12 PM »
And having it in the ?*ator means you can use it with other amps.
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« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2009, 01:05:32 PM »
Quote from: hywelg on May 26, 2009, 12:48:12 PM
And having it in the ?*ator means you can use it with other amps.


Sure...


...but after the Overtone, there is not many amps out there I really want
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« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2009, 07:48:31 PM »
Do you have a DC-30? If not you really really want one, believe me!
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« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2009, 08:21:55 PM »
Quote from: hywelg on May 26, 2009, 07:48:31 PM
Do you have a DC-30? If not you really really want one, believe me!

Don't own one but I did play it... and you're right, it's an awesome amp...but man, I really don't want to think about another amp at this point... I just finish my newborn yesterday and it didn't even cry out yet  Grin
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« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2009, 08:59:06 PM »
I love the DC 30 for clean. How about a Super reverb?
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« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2009, 06:01:37 AM »
Hey guys, don't start pushing my buttons... 

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« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2009, 02:03:33 PM »
Hi Steven_NL, Erwin_we and others,

I have just posted some mods to the Kleinulator, which I think will bring it to sound more like the Dumblator:
http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?topic=1279.0

Would be very interested in hearing your repsonse and off course even more so, if your performed the mods to your klein and posted your response.

I have close listened to your clips. And it sounds like the Klein in your clip is darker than the Dumblator. You reported that the Dumblator, is compressing a little more than the klein. I hounstly belive that the mentioned mods will bring the two closer in regards to touch, feel, compression.
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« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2009, 02:23:08 PM »
that means soldering. I can't do it.  No idea how much work this is?

I do agree with Erwin that the Klein seems a bit "stiffer" and less trasparant then his Dumbleator. An experiment would be fun

I don't have a Dumleator, but I'd be willing to visit Erwin ofcourse.
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« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2009, 03:51:41 PM »
Quote from: Steven_nl on August 27, 2009, 02:23:08 PM
that means soldering. I can't do it.  No idea how much work this is?

I do agree with Erwin that the Klein seems a bit "stiffer" and less trasparant then his Dumbleator. An experiment would be fun

I don't have a Dumleator, but I'd be willing to visit Erwin ofcourse.

no more than 5-10 min
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« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2009, 10:13:27 AM »
The dumbleator sounds rounder but the I think the kleinulator is very transparent. are you going to post any with effect like verb verb or delay?

My Skyliner OTS HRM BM is being built for me....It will be done soon I can't wait!!!  Grin
I am gonna be looking for a klein ulater or a d-later soon. This definitely gave me an idea of what I will get.... I am a Verb addict so I NEED one.
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« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2009, 10:26:22 AM »
Quote from: boldaslove6789 on November 30, 2009, 10:13:27 AM
The dumbleator sounds rounder but the I think the kleinulator is very transparent. are you going to post any with effect like verb verb or delay?

My Skyliner OTS HRM BM is being built for me....It will be done soon I can't wait!!!  Grin
I am gonna be lookin for a klein ulater or a d-later soon this definitly gave me an idea of what I will get.... I am a Verb addict so I NEED one.

Here is a sample of a OTS with dlator and rocktron replifex; http://www.e-noize.nl/goodies/Favourite_dlator_with_replifex.mp3
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