You should listen to spm72 on You Tube. His clip for the Certiatone Overtone Special Clean Test is the closest thing I have heard to the Two Rock Mayer sound. Maybe someone can upload it -It is killer!!!!   

I promise I will make some sample after I'll receive my Overtone (Nik told me that it should be sent next week).

I also buy the Overtone with the wish that he could make some great blackface or "Two-Rock" cleans sounds.

The samples which convince me to buy the overtone were the SPM's ones (who shows different side of that amp !) and a sample called "Arizona" from a "Thegearpage"'s guy who have a great clean tone.

I hope I did the right choice.

For now I'm trying to find the right speaker choice, for instance I have an old 4x12 Marshall cabinet loaded with old G12-65 but I will sell it soon.

I'm thinking right now for a G1265 RI with a Jensen NeoSpeaker in a 2x12 Open back but, I can't test theses speaker, It's quite difficult to know how they will sound like with the Overtone.

I am still waiting on my overtone but am quite familiar with Fender Amps.  In all I have owned six.  All but one was a tube amp.  Currently I have a Fender Concert 1x12 that has been with me for quite some time. 

A few observations and comments, much of which has been already spoken of in various places.  A lot of the richness of the two rocks clip comes from Mayer.  There are dynamics in his approach and timing that are typically him and well done, but the tone itself can be approached from many good Fenderish amps.  My concert that I paid three or four hundred bucks for (used) about 10 years ago will get very close to that with a Fulldrive 2, a strat (kinman AVN blues in the neck and middle) and the tone rolled back to taste.  THe missing ingredient is that I am not Mayer!

So much of the tone is in the hands.  As an example the absolute best version of an SRV song (other than SRV himself) I have ever heard was by a friend of mine, who is a blues phenom.  We jammed one day and he was playing through a small Fender SS amp with a stock strat and tubescreamer.  I would have never thought you could coax that sound out of that gerber baby amp.  He did.

Also there are a great many more clips on youtube than jazz noodling.  Very nice players too.  Great tones a plenty.  I do look forward to getting my amp but from what I have heard and my experience with Fenderish tones, they'll will get you lots of places but have their limitations as do all...I don't imagine the tone in that Mayer clip is out of reach because I can come pretty darn close with what I have now.

I would like to see some varying styles as well.  Perhaps as the amp useage gets more widespread we will.  That being said I am very grateful to the really fine players who took the time to post many of the clips that are up.  Spm72 and Marin sold me the day I stumbled on to the clips.

I chose to make a different speaker cab choice (other than the G1265s) based upon my quest to include that strat vibe that is Fendery...we'll see if I did the right thing because I still want what I have heard from others as well.

Someone has already said in this thread or another that "the best thing we can all do to improve our tone (and I would insert versatility) is to work on being better players".  My equipment is already better than I am and I imagine the Overtone will simply widen that gap...

Regards,
Casken

ahh ok everyone, forget i posted that mayer clip

i dont want to be him, and i know that alot of tone is in the playing, i am NOT ASKING "if i buy the OTS, will i sound like mayer"

what i was doing was demonstrating a different side to an amp that is supposed to be similar, that is all, and then asked if the OTS could achieve this different side as well.

ive heard a few clips that do ok, one that does quite well, i just wanted to get a better idea, thats all

Now I'm beginning to wonder if there are two different OTS versions out there!! I run with settings very similar to JohnE and don't find it overly bright. (Jensen p10R 4x10) I also have had a long conversation with Nik centreing around the fact that the presence control does very little on my amp so that I have to have it between 8 and10. All this is contrary to all the postings that others have made where they have noted their settings and especially treble and presence rarely go above 5. Now I thought the g12-65 was a not especially bright speaker, but maybe it is compared to my P10R's. I've got an EVM-12L on order since the concensus seemed to be that was the better choice so maybe i'll get different tone when its installed.

I have done the mods btw, but I think they are mostly to smooth out the treble on the OD and I'm talking about the clean channel here. I have to say I don't think my OTS has the same high mid content that I hear from a TR.

P.S. If everyone want a Fender tone, why not try to get a Fender sample instead of a Two Rock one? I think that that would be harder.


Well maybe you could give it a go Marin I'm sure you got the chops for a little hendrix chording or just jamming out some nice deep rythm perhaps, then maybe we can put an end to this thread, two rock / fender in that particular example they're in the same ball park for the tone we're talking about.

 He also played many a Fender when recording,

Its not a pissing contest I was merely being playful, for me as I said before I just want to know if I'm gonna buy one or not period, so this is research.

Peace