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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2008, 09:54:21 PM »
I guess you understand I'm quite happy at the moment. My amp will be shipped around now and we're winning ;-)
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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2008, 01:27:41 AM »
I think the Idea that dumbles are Larry Carlton, Robben Ford sounds is a bit misleading.
Think David Lindley, Lowell George and we would be dealing with a different pallet of this type of amp. SRV uses allot of different amps  and combinations of many together.When you hear his Dumble the high end  in the sound is different to his fendery "Lenny" tone.
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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2008, 03:08:20 PM »
Quote from: Nathan on June 13, 2008, 02:26:40 PM
I'm a Mayer fan, and I will receive my Overtone in one or two week (unfortunately the footswitch are out of stock so i didn't receive my overtone yet).

If I find something to record my amp I will post some samples with some Mayer's riff.

Nathan,
I have an extra footswitch. The one provided with my OTS had a 2m cable which is too short for a stage set up. I was able to get one from CeriaTone with a 5m cable. I only paid a dollar for it, so I am happy to send the original to you for the shipping cost. You could let Nik know that you have one, then. Let me know if you are interested and we can work out the details.
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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2008, 04:35:18 PM »
Quote from: JohnE on June 11, 2008, 06:51:30 PM
Yes, I am a big Matt Schofield fan. He is not generally known in the the states. I get funny looks when I identify him as an influence.

It seems that few people realize how much the neck influences the tone of a guitar. My strat orginally had a modern Fender thin C neck on it. I could barely play the thing. That Warmoth neck doubled the resonance of the guitar. I keep it tuned to E flat with 11-52's.  I have never heard a better strat tone and have not found anyone who would dispute that. And you are right about no body else liking that thick if a neck, but it is shock to those who are used to those weeny thin c necks.

I also have a MIM telecaster body with a Warmoth boatneck and a Dimarzio Twang King bridge p.u. and an Air Classic HB neck pickup (wired to allow split coils). The tone pots are removed and I just use a 4 -way rotary switch to select the pickup configuration (including the coil split). Any time I am playing that guitar around another guitar player or anyone knowledgeable about guitar tone I get asked about it. The big neck is the key!

Cool you like Matt too- I know Matt fairly well & I often saw him play locally before he hit the international stages.  The point I want to make is that one night Matt sat in with my band & I had a chance to hear my rig from the audience's point of view- even though he was playing my rather average '57 re-issue strat & my old Marshall Superlead/4x12 he sounded EXACTLY like himself- it really is all in the fingers, and made me sound very average! ;-) I have personally found the OT an amazing amp- case in point- at the gig last night I discovered to my horror that I'd left the footswitch at home- so I simply dialed in a semi-distorted tone & used the volume/pup selector on my Les Paul to  switch between clean& lead tones just like guitarists used to back in the day - sounded great!  The basic tone of this amp is incredible- the rest is for you discover from your guitar technique imho.
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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2008, 04:45:38 PM »
JohnE,

It's very very nice but I'm living in france, and I think the shipping cost will be a little bit important for a footswitch ! Anyway thanks it's very nice.

I will receive my Overtone in one week or two, for now, it's nothing compared to the 9 weeks passed !

I promise, I will make some mayerish sample.
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« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2008, 06:09:39 AM »
nathan, that would be great!

im envious that you have such a fine piece of gear so close to arriving haha
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« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2008, 01:56:40 AM »
Quote from: Nathan on June 14, 2008, 04:45:38 PM
JohnE,

It's very very nice but I'm living in france, and I think the shipping cost will be a little bit important for a footswitch ! Anyway thanks it's very nice.

I will receive my Overtone in one week or two, for now, it's nothing compared to the 9 weeks passed !

I promise, I will make some mayerish sample.

 



Sorry Nathan, vous avez raison. You could probably build your own foot switch cheaper than the postage from Western USA. I have very fond memories of Nice, Cannes, Toulon, Marseilles, St. Tropez, and St. Rafael/Frejus! I'll look forward to hearing your Mayerisms.
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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2008, 02:19:49 AM »
Quote from: Mitch on June 14, 2008, 04:35:18 PM
Quote from: JohnE on June 11, 2008, 06:51:30 PM
Yes, I am a big Matt Schofield fan. He is not generally known in the the states. I get funny looks when I identify him as an influence.

It seems that few people realize how much the neck influences the tone of a guitar. My strat orginally had a modern Fender thin C neck on it. I could barely play the thing. That Warmoth neck doubled the resonance of the guitar. I keep it tuned to E flat with 11-52's.  I have never heard a better strat tone and have not found anyone who would dispute that. And you are right about no body else liking that thick if a neck, but it is shock to those who are used to those weeny thin c necks.

I also have a MIM telecaster body with a Warmoth boatneck and a Dimarzio Twang King bridge p.u. and an Air Classic HB neck pickup (wired to allow split coils). The tone pots are removed and I just use a 4 -way rotary switch to select the pickup configuration (including the coil split). Any time I am playing that guitar around another guitar player or anyone knowledgeable about guitar tone I get asked about it. The big neck is the key!

Cool you like Matt too- I know Matt fairly well & I often saw him play locally before he hit the international stages.  The point I want to make is that one night Matt sat in with my band & I had a chance to hear my rig from the audience's point of view- even though he was playing my rather average '57 re-issue strat & my old Marshall Superlead/4x12 he sounded EXACTLY like himself- it really is all in the fingers, and made me sound very average! ;-) I have personally found the OT an amazing amp- case in point- at the gig last night I discovered to my horror that I'd left the footswitch at home- so I simply dialed in a semi-distorted tone & used the volume/pup selector on my Les Paul to  switch between clean& lead tones just like guitarists used to back in the day - sounded great!  The basic tone of this amp is incredible- the rest is for you discover from your guitar technique imho.
You are spot on about it in being in the fingers. I have played at numerous outdoor festivals and multi band events where the backline was provided by the sponsor. Usually modern Twin or Super Reverb reissues and even Deluxe Reverbs in smaller venues. I have seen many well known guitarists (for blues fans, anyway) play through the same amp over the course of an event and they all sounded like themselves. It is fun to follow that quest for better tone, but mastering your technique is far more important.  We guitarists fuss over what gear and what mods make us sound best, but everybody else just cares how you play. What a treat to get to know Matt Schofield, and see him play frequently! Thanks for your astute observation. We would all do well to keep it in mind.
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« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2008, 09:45:50 AM »
Quote from: cadsy48 on June 08, 2008, 08:50:19 AM
Hi guys,

no offense, i think everyone that has posted a clip has hit some great tone, and are all good players.  But to be honest i think they all kind of lean around the same sort of tone and no one has really showed the versatility that this amp is supposed to have...

whilst the distorted tones of this amp have been thrown around greatly in here, i am yet to hear an attempt at a mellow "make your heart melt" tone...

so, considering this is a competitor of the two-rocks/fuchs/etc.. i was wondering if anyone who owns an amp could please try to replicate this, from a two-rock signature:



if that sort of tone can even be approached on this OTS, then i think we would all gain a much greater appreciation of the versatility of sounds this amp can reproduce.

i only say this because although the carlton/ford tones are sweet, i would like to see if you can hit more traditional bluesy tones...

ps i think if that clean sound above was matched with a slight boost from an ibaneztube screamer it would just about be heaven from a speaker Tongue

cheers guys Smiley (and im sorry i dont mean to sound like a troll!)


Thats odd I was just about to post something that said exactly that, I am very tempted to buy one of these amps as they sound as if they should be amazing but all the sound clips or vids I've seen or heard I find quite sterile, and they are all noodling solo stuff! can someone out there give us some nice warm and earthy hendrix A bit of castles made of sand perhaps or  nice warm blues rythm, and you're right everone seems to be dialling in the same tone, I find it a little spiky considering this amp is supposed to be modelled on Blackface Fender type amps, so come on guys give us some lush warmth and maybe even a  chord or two perhaps and lastly some very different examples of what is tonally possible with the amps switching and eq.

cheers

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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2008, 10:16:24 AM »
Quote from: Tompski on June 17, 2008, 09:45:50 AM
Quote from: cadsy48 on June 08, 2008, 08:50:19 AM
Hi guys,

no offense, i think everyone that has posted a clip has hit some great tone, and are all good players.  But to be honest i think they all kind of lean around the same sort of tone and no one has really showed the versatility that this amp is supposed to have...

whilst the distorted tones of this amp have been thrown around greatly in here, i am yet to hear an attempt at a mellow "make your heart melt" tone...

so, considering this is a competitor of the two-rocks/fuchs/etc.. i was wondering if anyone who owns an amp could please try to replicate this, from a two-rock signature:



if that sort of tone can even be approached on this OTS, then i think we would all gain a much greater appreciation of the versatility of sounds this amp can reproduce.

i only say this because although the carlton/ford tones are sweet, i would like to see if you can hit more traditional bluesy tones...

ps i think if that clean sound above was matched with a slight boost from an ibaneztube screamer it would just about be heaven from a speaker Tongue

cheers guys Smiley (and im sorry i dont mean to sound like a troll!)


Thats odd I was just about to post something that said exactly that, I am very tempted to buy one of these amps as they sound as if they should be amazing but all the sound clips or vids I've seen or heard I find quite sterile, and they are all noodling solo stuff! can someone out there give us some nice warm and earthy hendrix A bit of castles made of sand perhaps or  nice warm blues rythm, and you're right everone seems to be dialling in the same tone, I find it a little spiky considering this amp is supposed to be modelled on Blackface Fender type amps, so come on guys give us some lush warmth and maybe even a  chord or two perhaps and lastly some very different examples of what is tonally possible with the amps switching and eq.

cheers

T Cool

Chords..??

Blasphemer..!! ;-)

Actually I'm very much in the "let's hear something different from the OTS camp"...
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« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2008, 01:11:19 PM »
cool so its not just me then!

its just that for something thats supposed to be based on a fender circuit, i havent really seen any attempt at a nice fender bluesy tone!
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« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2008, 01:16:09 PM »
Quote from: cadsy48 on June 17, 2008, 01:11:19 PM
cool so its not just me then!

its just that for something thats supposed to be based on a fender circuit, i havent really seen any attempt at a nice fender bluesy tone!

Totally agree, in the email discussions I've had with Nik he's told me that it will do good Blackface or Tweed type Fender tones, but I've yet to hear any demos of them.

Actually I take that back, there is (make that was - can't find it now, hopefully someone on here will have it) one demo out there on Youtube of someone doing the outro from Layla and they do get a good Fender-type sound from the amp...
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« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2008, 12:51:41 PM »
this is the closest ive heard to getting the sort of sounds im talking about



there are moments of some REALLY nice blues tones in there...



EDIT: AHH! go to 4:30, thats what im talking about, hardly any clips show off that sort of sound, now the question is it that the amp or the geek-screamer pedal haha
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« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2008, 08:41:12 PM »
who says the amp is so versatile? It gets a wide range of tones but they all sound like a dumble. I think it can get a wide range of tones from jazz to blues to rock to fusion. That's pretty versatile and I've posted a wide range of clips but you probably didn't take the time to check them out. Easier to issue a challenge. Cheesy

How versatile is a '65 Fender Twin or JTM-45?
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« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2008, 08:50:50 PM »
Hey Jack,

judging by the opening thead, it appears that "versatile" means "can do a Two-Rock tone" ( the clean, Mayer one and you need to wear a funny skiing hat.)  Grin



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