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Ceriatone => Overtone => Topic started by: marinblues on June 22, 2010, 01:28:48 PM



Title: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: marinblues on June 22, 2010, 01:28:48 PM
Hi,

i've been away for a while, mainly due to a biking accident where I hurt my left hand, so I couldn't really play for the past 2-3 months. I received my C-lator last week, so I decided to remove my cast an record a demo video. Initially, it hurt a bit, and the fingers have no strength in them. but in the end I put something together. The video was mean't to show the difference when using the overtone with and without the C-lator. I talk too much  :chairdance: so the video is long (18min). Its split into 2 sections (Part 1 & Part 2).

I'd appreciate your feedback here before I post the links anywhere else. thanks :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxqC2qFP6m4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPB4X17p7Oo


marin


Title: Re: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: Pickmaster on June 22, 2010, 02:34:51 PM
Hey Marin,

Great to see you in action again and I’m glad you are well my friend.
What a lovely video with  great explanations and samples.
Take it easy with bikes! We need you much more here in a guitar world.
Best wishes


Title: Re: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: marinblues on June 22, 2010, 06:44:17 PM
Thanks Ika,

good to hear from you! :)

Do you think the videos are presentable enough to be posted at the "other" forum? ;)


thanks

Marin


Title: Re: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: erwin_ve on June 22, 2010, 08:52:15 PM
HI Marin,

Hope you're doing well with your recovery. That was a nasty drop you made.

Excellent explained vid. Even for noobs about this amp it will sure help to get a good picture.

One note: Maybe you can try setting your IN control on the Clator to the max. The compression varies than more with the pick attack and the tone becomes rounder. In addition you can set up your amp brighter if that's your taste.

Greetz Erwin


Title: Re: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: marinblues on June 22, 2010, 08:58:33 PM
HI Marin,

Hope you're doing well with your recovery. That was a nasty drop you made.

Excellent explained vid. Even for noobs about this amp it will sure help to get a good picture.

One note: Maybe you can try setting your IN control on the Clator to the max. The compression varies than more with the pick attack and the tone becomes rounder. In addition you can set up your amp brighter if that's your taste.

Greetz Erwin

thanks, It wasn't me in the video (thank God...) :)

I'll try more settings with the c-lator. I haven't had much playing time. I just wanted to share my first impressions which were positive. As I said in the video, I was a bit sceptical about the improvements which the buffered loops could bring. For example, i never used the kleinulator much, but the clator is something else.

m.


Title: Re: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: erwin_ve on June 22, 2010, 09:04:40 PM
You now have a tuned racecar amp... :)


Title: Re: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: Steven_nl on June 23, 2010, 07:17:30 AM
Ha Marin
I allready posted on youtube but still, Maybe the a/b diffence isn';t quite as clear as it could be because it's spread over 2 video's?
I even found the added effects a bit unclear. Maybe you have used a different mic/setup in previous recordings?
Loved you humorous presentation though. And good to hear it wasn't you in that video.
I agreee with Erwin. I have my Return turned all the way up as well. Not sure which pot on your C-lator that is though. The names are different.

One thing that is clear for me. When you use a C-lator it takes away some brightness and perhaps even some pf the dynamics/liveliness of the sound? It does make it rounder and sweeter.


Title: Re: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: marinblues on June 23, 2010, 09:36:38 AM
The amp settings are the same throughout the 2 videos. Unfortunately, I had to render / edit the 2 videos separately because of the 10min limit on youtube.

I hear you when you say that there is no perceptable difference between the samples.

I think thats because I talk to much! :D

I've had criticism that I only play in my demo's and never show my face so I went the other way here! ;)

m.

Ha Marin
I allready posted on youtube but still, Maybe the a/b diffence isn';t quite as clear as it could be because it's spread over 2 video's?
I even found the added effects a bit unclear. Maybe you have used a different mic/setup in previous recordings?
Loved you humorous presentation though. And good to hear it wasn't you in that video.
I agreee with Erwin. I have my Return turned all the way up as well. Not sure which pot on your C-lator that is though. The names are different.

One thing that is clear for me. When you use a C-lator it takes away some brightness and perhaps even some pf the dynamics/liveliness of the sound? It does make it rounder and sweeter.



Title: Re: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: Steven_nl on June 23, 2010, 12:22:39 PM
I think it was realy nice that you heard your talk. It gave me the feeling I got to know you a bit better. Stange maybe vut still. You aklwaus look very serous in your video's and now it turns our you are a realy fun guy :-)


Title: Re: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: marinblues on June 23, 2010, 04:42:35 PM
I think it was realy nice that you heard your talk. It gave me the feeling I got to know you a bit better. Stange maybe vut still. You aklwaus look very serous in your video's and now it turns our you are a realy fun guy :-)

all it takes is few beers before you start recording! ;D


Title: Re: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: Pickmaster on June 23, 2010, 05:42:21 PM
Marin,

Videos are really enjoyable, it is nice to see real person who explains things, jokes, plays and so on. Green light my man.
Cheers


Title: Re: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: marinblues on June 24, 2010, 12:17:04 PM
Marin,

Videos are really enjoyable, it is nice to see real person who explains things, jokes, plays and so on. Green light my man.
Cheers


thanks!

p.s. the more I play this thing, the more I like  it


Title: Re: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: rogb on June 24, 2010, 05:38:44 PM
Just nearing the end of my build, I'm really looking forward to it now :)


Title: Re: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: rane008 on June 27, 2010, 09:30:23 PM
I know this has been covered before in the forums, but it can't hurt to repost:

Controls (in the form of C-lator = Kleinulator):

Drive = Send
In = Return
Out = Recovery

Interesting, huh?  So yeah, the In should usually be set to max (according to Chris and Nik) and the Drive is set to the level where your effects don't distort.  I use the Out as a Pre-PIMV, like most and it sounds great!  It's really nice to be able to set the amp at 5 for Input/OD level/Master and use the Out knob for overall vol control.  Saturated!



Title: Re: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: ampkits on July 04, 2010, 09:01:26 PM
Marin

Wow, I just saw these!

Hehe, nice! That was very entertaining, as well as informative!

Hope the hand is getting better now.

"...Bona-fide Boss" <- hahaha...

Let me buy you some more beer so you say "dumble" instead. That should get you more fan mails! LOL!

Thanks!

Nik


Title: Re: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: marinblues on July 20, 2010, 04:56:29 PM
Marin

Wow, I just saw these!

Hehe, nice! That was very entertaining, as well as informative!

Hope the hand is getting better now.

"...Bona-fide Boss" <- hahaha...

Let me buy you some more beer so you say "dumble" instead. That should get you more fan mails! LOL!

Thanks!

Nik

hahaha...thanks Nik.




Title: Re: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: Teleguy61 on September 06, 2010, 05:26:53 PM
Hi Marin-
Just ran into these.
Nice to hear you talk, glad your hand is ok.
Thanks for your efforts in this and other vids-they are very helpful in understanding the intricacies
of Nik's products.
Good luck and keep on keeping on-
George


Title: Re: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: Nairbr on September 12, 2010, 12:16:09 AM
Good video Marin, very informative in showing what difference the C-Lator does to the sound of the amp.

I just finished my C-Lator build last night.
I have only given it a short try out at low volume so far but it feels like the amp has a slightly different character to it now over the Klein, so far it feels more warmer / smoother sounding.

I using a TC Electronic G Major in the loop with a Rocktron Midi Mate controller I bought S/Hand, really easy to set up the amp channel switching via midi patches.

I am temped to try the serial / parallel wiring that has been posted on Amp Garage site as the G Major has a Kill Dry function for parallel use.


Title: Re: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: Steven_nl on September 16, 2010, 07:39:35 AM
Yeah you would't want to A/D (and D/A) convert your nice OTS tone would you?
It's the reason I got a Rocktron. Dry signal stays analog


Title: Re: C-lator explained (demo video) ...a bit long :)
Post by: Nairbr on September 18, 2010, 12:18:32 AM
Yeah you would't want to A/D (and D/A) convert your nice OTS tone would you?
It's the reason I got a Rocktron. Dry signal stays analog
Thats a good feature to have, I picked the G Major for the relay switching but I wish it could do that, it would save a bit of modding or buying something like a Suhr Minimix.