No, WTF are you talking about? 

So, I totally took your post the wrong way? Correct?

And considering you don't know me and I like women, address me by my name please.

Just be careful thinking a parallel loop is the end all, be all. The trick to serial loops is having quality effects in them and as few as possible. The same is true for parallel too. I found phase cancellation issues a problem with parallel loops.

I think a big part of the "subjectiveness of tone" is us guitar players are just fickle about all of it.  My Mesa Boogie had a parallel loop and it drove me nuts all the time and I was always saying "I'll never use another and I liked the old serial I had in other amps".  But, the truth of the matter it was possible to get it tweaked in with the different effects I was using at the time.

So, when it came to finding out what the Mr. D thought was the right solution, I thought it made a lot of sense to me. But who knows, I may change my mind down the road.

Most of all, I was just trying to reply to the OP's inquiry within the context he was asking. I really don't know what happened beyond that.

Perhaps the SSRI's ran out.

If you have a very good sounding amp and you don't want to get the dlator shape or"suck"tone away you can mod the clator.
Remove the NFB from the Clator and decrease the grid stopper resistor.
Personally I don't like that but I can imagine there are lots of people who do.

Considering all your needs/wants, and most of all price range, I would say go for it. It sounds like a reasonable solution.

But, sometime when you get a chance I would take the time to read up on what the C/D-lator design does besides buffer the loop signal. Things like changing the gain and drive stucture for the better. IMO

I just got my Clator and I have to agree with all of you. That's the way to go. I'm using a Lexicon LXP-1 for reverb which already has an input and output gain level control. But with the Clator it is on another level. Plus, the Clator really changes your amps tone a little. Makes the whole amp sound smoother.

 It is a much different Buffer circuit than that of a D-lator. Not only does the D-lator help with buffering the IN/Out of a line level rack effect or pedal, it helps smooth out the sound overdrive and adds a slight compression to the overall sound of the amp making it more 3D sounding and changing the responsiveness.


 BTw Ya'll it's only a hand full of parts to add an internal Dumbleator to a Ceriatone amp. The Ceriatone Power trafo is more than capable of running another 12ax7. All the Parts can be implemented point to point. A hole can be made for another 9 pin tube between the PI (V3) and the OD (V2) tube and The Send and Return Pot's can be either put on Trim Pots internally or you can get small Pot's to go above the Send and Return Jacks. Less than $40 in parts too and can easily be done by a local Tech in your area. I can almost guarantee that it will add value if the amp has to be sold.

All the info including layout's/schematic's to add an internal Tube buffered effects loop (AKA Dumbleator) can be found at the Amp Garage Forum. (NOT recommended for those who have no basic knowledge of tube amps/electronics)