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« on: June 09, 2011, 11:19:12 AM »

I've seen a few lurking around forums and stuff. I want one thats pedal size and good quality. I understand that the C-Lator and Bludo are the ones to get, but to be honest, I havent got room for a rack-size unit and would like something in the $100-$150 range, pedal size. I seen a Carl Martin Paraloop that looks cool, same inputs and outputs etc as the Fuchs FX Looper, minus tube also Minus the $350 price. Does anyone know of any??
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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2011, 11:51:00 AM »

As far as I know the Paraloop or other parallel loop devices like the Lehle Parallel (unless it's a parallel FX Loop Buffer like the Fuchs) don't Buffer your FX Loop at all.

I think the only way in the price range 100-150$ is a kleinulator. Never heard of any other comparable unit in that price range.
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2011, 03:01:58 PM »

Thanks for reply. I was hoping for more pedalboard friendly setup to be honest. How good is the Kleinulator? Is it on par with the C-Lator or the Fuchs Verbrator, which are both tube-driven. Is there much of a difference in tone? SERIOUSLY??
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2011, 03:36:52 PM »

Hey Babybear2011

I didnt want to have an extra rack unit either so I did this with a pair of scissors and jigsaw.

The tube driven Buffered effects loop is the way to go IMO!

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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2011, 03:39:30 PM »

I did forget to mention the head cab is 2 rock style which may be a little taller than whatever cab you may have.

Saves me a lot of hassle though.

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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2011, 05:17:30 PM »

Thanks for reply. I was hoping for more pedalboard friendly setup to be honest. How good is the Kleinulator? Is it on par with the C-Lator or the Fuchs Verbrator, which are both tube-driven. Is there much of a difference in tone? SERIOUSLY??
All I'm going to say should be taken in the light of the fact that I'm presently putting together a parts order to build a C/D-lator.

BUT.....the Kleinulator does do what it's suppose to do. And is a great improvement over nothing. I can't compare it to a C-lator, but I have it on good authority that the C-lator is the way to go.

Also, I don't know if having it on a pedalboard with long cable runs is a good idea. I sit it on top of the amp. Just something to consider.
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2011, 06:53:33 PM »

I have it on good authority that the C-lator is the way to go.

Not really. Wink
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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2011, 07:24:59 PM »

I have it on good authority that the C-lator is the way to go.

Not really. Wink
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OK, I'm sitting here trying to figure out what is the purpose of this post. Also how does it help the OP and his question.

What did I miss?

Are you referring to the Surh MiniMix combo deal?
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2011, 07:34:57 PM »

I was thinking the same thing. Oy veh coulda been a lil less helpful  Huh? the suhr mini mix and c-lator combo seems to work, also xotic makes a parallel/series buffer in a pedal format which could compliment the c-lator as well
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2011, 07:47:12 PM »

I was thinking the same thing. Oy veh coulda been a lil less helpful  Huh? the suhr mini mix and c-lator combo seems to work, also xotic makes a parallel/series buffer in a pedal format which could compliment the c-lator as well
I would like to try the Surh setup to see what that's about. But IMO with what I have experienced so far, the less in the loop the better. I should have said in the earlier post that between the two (Klein & C-lator) the C-lator is better.
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2011, 07:49:47 PM »

I seem to recall a post about a modded digitech pedal? Was that the one you speak of Pickmaster?

When you say "Better" is this convenience, tone or both?

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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2011, 08:01:15 PM »


What did I miss?
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Yes, I guess you did. Sometimes one can use a site search for older posts.
I’ve posted here several times about different loop devices which works better than Dlator-Bludolat-Cilat-Tonesuckulator. Some expensive, some cheap but very good and somehow almost everyone here still obsessed with average series loopolators.
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2011, 08:06:22 PM »

Hey why search I've read and memorized every post on this Forum Cool
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Thanks for being helpful though Grin

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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2011, 08:13:57 PM »

Yes, I guess you did. Sometimes one can use a site search for older posts.
I’ve posted here several times about different loop devices which works better than Dlator-Bludolat-Cilat-Tonesuckulator. Some expensive, some cheap but very good and somehow almost everyone here still obsessed with average series loopolators.

You mean that modified RP series digitech deal. No thanks. I'll stick with a tube buffer and my TC2290.

First of all I wasn't asking about buffered loops, so WTF are you talking about.

And I hate parallel loops. You know, some here might just have their own idea of what is best.
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2011, 08:22:10 PM »

I seem to recall a post about a modded digitech pedal? Was that the one you speak of Pickmaster?

When you say "Better" is this convenience, tone or both?

Todd

Well that’s the good one in every way: price, tone FXs in one small flour pedal.
Than Fuchs Tube Fx loop, Verbrator, Suhr mimi mix, Koch loop buffer and probably something else.
My advise for OP – buy Digitech RP100 on eBay (probably for $60), turn up master pot on 99 and tweak inner EQ for your pleasure, use low capacitance wires and have major joy.
My apologies to companies who are selling D-lators.
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