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« on: November 02, 2007, 05:28:14 PM »

Bring back the Overtone
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2007, 05:35:41 PM »

Of course.. yes..  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2007, 06:29:41 PM »

Another yes vote for the Overtone Chair Dance
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2007, 07:08:04 PM »

You definitely have my vote...


BRING IT BACK, BRING IT BACK....
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2007, 11:33:46 PM »



I'm there with everybody else................. bring it back!!
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« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2007, 04:49:43 PM »

Bring it back

Ceriatone rule...............................................

I have had 4 amps from Nik... the best!!

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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2007, 08:46:56 PM »

Hello all,

  Thanks for the support.

  I am just cheering up from all thats happened. Seeing how my memory isnt good at all these days, I might forget and suddenly think " Oh yeah the D amp! Why not name it Overtone..ah..good name!"  Grin

  We shall see.

  In the meantime, do enjoy...!

  thanks!

Nik

 
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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2007, 10:08:34 PM »

Mmmm.. I think I like that name after all... Grin

Overtone.. yes.. seems nice...

I don´t know what that "D" amp is Grin.. wonder what it is..  but I´m sure it´ll be great if you decide to sell it  Cool

 Wink

Now for a more serious message.... You know that everybody will respect your decision, no matter what it is... but you can guess what is my (and many others) wish...

All the best

Rui
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2007, 11:42:51 PM »

I say bring it back! Hey, others are making nothing more than thinly disguised variations of the legendary ODS amp, I don't know why Nik is taking so much heat about his version. As long as no patents or trademarks are infringed upon, go for it!! Cool Cool Cool

FWIW, someone I know was on the recieving end of a Mr. "D"  hose job, as in paying for an ODS and never getting it. Been almost 20 years now, still no amp.
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2007, 05:48:39 AM »

Well there are many clones of all these beloved amps that are made by small boutique amp builders  that I won't mention here. These individuals are very threatened by Nik's amps, because they are high quality and very affordable. He also demystifies the ridiculous hype that these amps have by offering them quickly and with high quality.


These amp guys really get upset when someone is competing with them on a design, that they themselves have borrowed. Huh?

Funny thing, if Nik charged the outrageous prices that the other cloners do, then there would be no issue, but the fact that Nik offers a great product for a great price, really threatens these builders.

I build and design tube amps for myself, and sell them occasionally to friends and others. And I know the costs involved.

Anyway, Nik if your reading this, build away forget the naysayers, keep up the great work! Grin
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2007, 01:00:31 PM »

B+, this is the kind of post that starts all the trouble.    Nik has made it clear that there would be NO Ceriatone Overtone if not for the many years of research and development by the very "overpriced cloners" you mention.    Nobody is threatened.   I have a personal relationship with all of these guys and talk to them on a regular basis.    I assure you there is no problem.   The problem is posts like yours.    Although not your intention, it  incorrectly assumes the motivations for a good part of what created the flak and insults the pioneers whose shoulders Nik is standing on.  Maybe Nik will chime in.... 

Furthermore, nobody has compared an Overtone to any of the clones or the real deal.   So any quality and/or tone comparisons cannot possibily be made until after somebody gets one AND compares it.     There is a lot of intricacies to building and tuning these.   More so than any other Ceriatone.    That is why there are forums like Ampgarage.    Nik admittedly used the research posted by an associate of one of the "ripoff" builders to design the Overtone!!   Kind of hypocritical to slam here then..... Nik would never do that.

Charging about three thousand for an American made amp with 30 plus hours of labor in it, full warranty, thicker higher grade aluminum chassis, and high quality American made trannies, is not a ripoff.     It is more than a Ceriatone, but they are much different in many areas.   To some it is worth it.   Factor in the cost of the R&D, insurance, cost of USA labor, etc, you can see nobody is getting rich making these.     

Ceriatone is certainly a good value alternative but it is apples to oranges at the moment.   Please try and not be insulting to the other builders.   Without them, there would be no Ceriatone Overtone.     There is room for everybody and nobody has forced or threatened Niks hand in any way.    If he feels liek offering an Overtone model, prebuilt, that is his decision.    He has to decide whether it is profitable at his price point given the several days construction time....

Respectfully,

Scott
Well there are many clones of all these beloved amps that are made by small boutique amp builders  that I won't mention here. These individuals are very threatened by Nik's amps, because they are high quality and very affordable. He also demystifies the ridiculous hype that these amps have by offering them quickly and with high quality.


These amp guys really get upset when someone is competing with them on a design, that they themselves have borrowed. Huh?

Funny thing, if Nik charged the outrageous prices that the other cloners do, then there would be no issue, but the fact that Nik offers a great product for a great price, really threatens these builders.

I build and design tube amps for myself, and sell them occasionally to friends and others. And I know the costs involved.

Anyway, Nik if your reading this, build away forget the naysayers, keep up the great work! Grin
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2007, 06:31:48 PM »

C´mon B+55... let´s not bring that kind of discussion over here too...

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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2007, 07:35:06 PM »

C´mon B+55... let´s not bring that kind of discussion over here too...

Wink

I second that sentiment. REGARDLESS of how everybody feels, enough has been said on both sides of the fence (if there even is one) to last a lifetime.
Forums have been locked, (and now thankfully open again) members on both sides have had their collective pee pee`s whacked by numerous moderators, and now that the dust has settled and decisions have been made, it`s time to accept those decisions for now and move on.

Smiley
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Ulbrick Sound Venue 30 Verbovibe  1 x 12
Ulbrick Sound Stadium 80 Special head + matching 2 x 12 cabinet
Ceriatone Overtone Special

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Heritage H-150CM with Wolfetone Dr Vintage pickups

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Ulbrick Sound 12AXE

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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2007, 08:09:50 PM »

Stop being so sensible Chuck!!   Btw, how is the Ulbrick amp?

C´mon B+55... let´s not bring that kind of discussion over here too...

Wink

I second that sentiment. REGARDLESS of how everybody feels, enough has been said on both sides of the fence (if there even is one) to last a lifetime.
Forums have been locked, (and now thankfully open again) members on both sides have had their collective pee pee`s whacked by numerous moderators, and now that the dust has settled and decisions have been made, it`s time to accept those decisions for now and move on.

Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2007, 10:59:24 PM »

Hiya Scott, Chuck and everyone else! Smiley

I hope the Ceriatone kicks ass since I have one order! Wink


cheers

Marin
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