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« on: June 03, 2011, 09:41:38 AM »

I want to hear any reviews or opinions of it by those who have it.
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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2011, 10:12:36 AM »

I thought all the BMs made after early 2010 had it anyway?Huh?
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« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2011, 10:22:40 PM »

I thought all the BMs made after early 2010 had it anyway?Huh?

I dont know. When I emailed nik recently telling him what I was after he suggested the BM with JM mod. I would assume he would just call it the BM if it already incorporated it...maybe not though.
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2011, 04:04:27 AM »

Can someone explain what this mod is?  Either a description of what it does to the tone, a technical description or both?  Grin
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2011, 10:31:59 AM »

This was Nik's response from our email exchange, "As for the JM mod, it’s pretty subtle honestly. It’s done to make the amp slightly less bright on the clean channel, and reduce aggressive mids (in your face) as well.."
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2011, 02:49:34 PM »

Are JM's Dumbles and Two Rocks Bluesmaster circuit too? Always thought they were not...
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2011, 10:15:18 PM »

Are JM's Dumbles and Two Rocks Bluesmaster circuit too? Always thought they were not...


Nah, not all of John Mayer's Dumble's & TR's are not Bluesmaster's (he owns sooo many though it's hard to say.

 His Two Rock Sig is based around the Clean channel of the Custom Reverb Sig. The CRS is based upon the "Classic" style Dumble Clean Voicing with NON-HRm Overdrive.

 A Tone quest article a while back reviewed one of his 100w HRm Dumble Overdrive Special's with EL34's that was used extensively in 07' on Continum.
I attached it below.

He owns many other Dumble accessories and Amps too
1 Dumble Overdrive Preamp (early Prototype)
1 Dumbleator I
1 Dumbleator II
1 Overdrive Special 100w classic (silver chassis,Combo cab with Ev, David Lindly type amp)
1 Overdrive Special 50w non-HRm Skyliner
1 Dumble Modded Bandmaster (used currently to run his Leslie cabs)
1 Dumble Overdrive Reverb (Skyliner, SSS type Verb)
1 Dumble Steel String Singer (100w 4x6L6's, Filter Inductor Section,Silver chassis)

The 100w HRm EL34 ODS can be seen here:


Here is a pic of his many Dumble's:

Dumble 100w NON-HRM Skyliner (Mid 80's, 2 piece chassis)
Dumble 100w HRM Skyliner (Late 80's)
Dumble 100w HRm Skyliner (Mid 90's Script Logo)









* tonequest dumble article.PDF (1308.93 KB - downloaded 1281 times.)

* John Mayer Dumble & Two Rock proto.jpg (104.7 KB, 760x398 - viewed 1543 times.)
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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2011, 03:26:55 PM »

Hi,

It is not really BM mod. It is an ordinary OTS 100 with following mods (mods are in red-ish colour).
I modified about fifteen amps this way and it is closest to JM clean and drive tone.
You have to switch 3 way bright switch on 68pf !
Hope this helps.
But you need JM hands too Grin
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2011, 05:12:57 PM »

Thanks for the infos Smiley

Pickmaster are those mods you tried yourself to get close to JM Sound or are those mods which are in a Dumble of JM?
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« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2011, 05:50:50 PM »

Unfortunately not in JM’s Dumble.
But we experimented a lot to get as close as possible with Ceriatone. Loads of younger players like his tone (not his really, it’s Hendrix and SRV if you ask me)  and they want their amps to be modified that way.
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2011, 11:07:27 AM »

Looks interesting. What speaker do you recommend?
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2011, 02:02:45 PM »

EVM-12L   !!!
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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2011, 12:05:23 PM »

Hm, but Mayer uses 2x G12-65, 2x Celestion Gold and 2x Celestion Century himself?
There's a G12-65Heritage in my 1x12" Combo right now. Maybe the EVM-12L would be a good match in a second 1x12" box Smiley Or a Celestion gold  Huh?
Or both in a 2x12"  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2011, 07:10:19 PM »

EVM-12L   !!!

I now have an EVM12L
I think that although the clean is amazing, it is a little too shrill for the BM50. The EVM12 is the best one for the OTS 50 I think
I prefer the Celestion Gold on the BM50
Personal taste of course!
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BM50, JTM45, 36w EF86, DZ30, Expression, + non-Ceriatones (Matchless, Victoria, Wienbrock)
Just started with pedals a little after a 10 year purist spell, but usually just delay
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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2011, 09:44:00 AM »

I have an old 80s EV12L.

Have tried it a number of times in a ported cabinet...similar to pickmasters snakeskin ditto. However, I find it to be pretty useless for OD .....AT LOWER VOLUMES!  :-)
It better at gig volume.

I have tried a eminence kappa Pro in the cabinet and it has a better OD top end but its perhaps a little dark. The best speaker for The ported cabinet is IMO is a Fane 12L ...it has both great clean tone and great OD tones at ANY volume. And the Fane has a massive bottomend similar to a 4x12. Incredible IMHO.
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