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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2009, 11:36:55 PM »

I have a 10'' Tonetubby Alnico it is the most defining speakers I have used.  I also have a Weber VST 10" which is a close 2nd.  I use both in the same speaker cab combo.  I think I'm the only guy on this site to use 10'' speakers

I have a 12" Eminence Cannabis Rex in my OTS 1x12 combo and it rocks!! I love the tone the speaker and amp have together
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2009, 03:54:37 AM »

I also use a 4 by 10 cab with Jensen p10r's. Great blues and rock setup. Grin
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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2009, 01:20:27 PM »

Santana uses Altec 817 Alnico. I think the closest thing would be something from Weber. They don't sound like the 65watt celestion.
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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2009, 08:05:39 PM »

I have used all EVM12-L, G12-65 and Celestion Gold and the winner is ...The Celestion Gold

Better cleans, much better cleans, my Overton sounds like a BF Deluxe and when I engage the OD it sounds like santana
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2009, 08:19:33 PM »

Just to add...The gold is so much warmer and creamier than my experience with the celestion blue.

Martin Lewis raves about the Golds with the Fuchs ODS.

My overtone is the most versatile amp I own as the cleans are truly BF fender only better.  Better than any of the cleans I have heard on youtube and these forums.

The OD is so silky smooth it made such an improvement over the G12-65 which I though was just OK

I will do some clips as I think people are missing out on the massive tonal improvement
 of this speaker with the Overtone.   
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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2009, 02:27:24 AM »

i love alnico speakers with my overtone im using a mix between a g12-65 and an alnico gold. very warm and smooth, i like to mix speakers so im using a 30 watt alnico that is brighter but still very smooth
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« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2009, 12:02:12 PM »

I have just gotten my OTS, (regular version, Gabkits combo cabinet, playing a Strat) and have tried :

A Celestion C90 - sounded too middy with my Lone Star but surprisingly was not bad in the OTS,

A Weber Ceramic California - handled everthing but was a little sterile sounding

A Jensen C12K - I had high hopes for this but it ended up being too hot in the midrange

A JBL D120F - so far the best sounding speaker in that cab, but the highs are a bit piercing and the midrange is still not quite tamed

In general, I'm looking for a speaker that is scooped enough in the midrange to overcome the midrange spike I'm either getting from the cab or the amp. I would like to be able to use the "deep" (mid-boost) switch because some of the body I get from using it sounds really good, but so far it's been unuseable with the Strat, a little too woofy.

I have looked at several response curves and noticed that the Jensen P12N has a pronounced notch in the midrange of its response curve. Before I drop $200 on yet another speaker, has anyone tried one of these out with their OTS?
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« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2009, 04:44:08 PM »

At the risk of sounding like a broken record..... Eminence Wizard, about $76.00 at ZZOUNDS
I have been alternating between a 2 x12 with V30 & G12H30 and a closed back cube with the Wizard  I play these side by side all the time. I recently picked up Nik's 2550 clone and run it with the OTS. I really like the Wizard best with either amp. The Wizard is actually louder than the 2 x 12! I have (2) G12-65s and I cannot  figure out the attraction to those speakers.
Although different speakers sound better than other with different amps I have not heard a Jensen Speaker that wowed me. I have Bassman with weber blues and it sounds great, the OTS does not sound as good through that cab. I have Kendrick blackframes in my vintage SR which are supposed to be best emulation of the old Jensens. Again I prefer the Wizard to those speakers with the OTS.

Not exactly the info you wanted,  but if you can, check out the Wizard.
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« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2009, 05:29:27 PM »

Re: Marinblues:

Seeing as how you have quite a lot of clips up on YouTube, and the tone is most excellent, I believe you may have a handle on it. Of course, the other players have their points of view (and hearing) which makes it a very personal thing.

I have a 2x12 Cabinet with a Greenback and a GT-65 in it. This will probably be a good starting point I believe. Of course, my amp is still 3-5 weeks out according to Nik (a couple of days ago). This has been the longest 3½ weeks of my life so far!

Thanks for the input.
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« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2009, 12:34:00 AM »



 I would like to be able to use the "deep" (mid-boost) switch because some of the body I get from using it sounds really good, but so far it's been unuseable with the Strat, a little too woofy.




I too have had this problem with the  Strat. I don't think a speaker is going to fix it. But! there is hope....Check hywelg's post in the Greg Hilden wannabe thread. He explains how Matt Schofield sets up his two rock. I tried this and I was very pleased with the resulting tone and it seemed to remedy the "woofy" problem with the strat.
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« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2009, 11:47:25 AM »

Thanks JohnE;
I'm seriously considering an Eminence Wizard, by the way. I emailed Nik and he suggested changing the cap on the mid-boost (aka "deep" on the stock OTS) from 330 pF to 270 pF to make it a little less predominant in the mid range, to boost it, but not as much so to speak. I will definitely check the Matt Schofield settings as well. Thank you for your help.

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« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2009, 04:38:14 PM »

I also use a 4 by 10 cab with Jensen p10r's. Great blues and rock setup. Grin

I also use a 4x10 cabinet with Celestion G10's and love the tone at any volume. I have a 2x12 with a Vintage 30 and G12H30 but seem to keep going back to the 10's. The low end seems to tighten up a bit to my ears with the 10's. Either way...you cant go wrong with an OTS. 
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« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2009, 12:27:27 PM »

Just for the hell of it, while waiting for some Eminence speakers to try, I put a Weber Ceramic Blue Dog I had sitting around in the 112 combo cabinet I'm using with the OTS. To my surprise, it sounded great in there. Can get very nice Knoplfer-esque sounds in the clean channel, and you can nail the classic British OD tone (think the opening chords of "You Really Got Me" by the Kinks). I'm not what I'd call a rocker, more into blues and jazz blues, so I might not keep that speaker in there permanently, but I thought that I'd report my findings to add to the general knowledge pool.
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« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2009, 04:08:36 PM »

Those Weber Blue Dogs are great speakers.They work well in my Weber 5F6A kit amp.
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« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2009, 02:05:19 PM »

Celestion G12-65, I have two vintage ones in a semi open backed solid pine 2x12 and the tone is unreal, Robben Ford/Carlton tone no kidding.

Before that I had Weber Silver Bells, but the difference after changing to the G12-65's was astounding. They really take this amp from nice tube tone to undeniable 'D*mble" territory.

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