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« on: February 06, 2011, 11:22:26 AM »

Hi everyone,

i'm new here, i was hoping you guys could help me choose which OTS would suit me best. I'm looking for a very fat, mid-heavy, smooth, american-voiced, thick, creamy,... (you get the idea) tone, similar to the Custom Reverb Signature like Joe Bonamassa uses.

Which Ceriatone OTS model would be the best choice ?


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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2011, 02:03:12 PM »

I don't know which amp would be best, cause I just know the OTS S&M so far...

But one thing i want to add: Joe Bonamassa doesn't use Two Rocks at all. He uses mainly Van Weelden Twinklelands combined with a Marshall Silver Jubilee for his lead tone.
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2011, 03:56:39 PM »

 Joe Bonamassa has 4 (OR) 5 identical (Or at least similar) amp rigs between the United States and the UK. The Rigs are kept in different parts of the country's & are sent to different cities pending on when and where the gig is. He has a few Two-Rocks in his rotation. AFAIK he prefers 100w Custom Reverb Signature Version 1's.

 In the video (and other video's/articles) he explains that he digs the Robben Ford sound so maybe the Ceriatone 100w Ford Mustang (Robben's #102 ODS clone) & a C-lator maybe good for you.


 Also the Marshall Jubilee is always on in his rig so its a crucial ingredient in his sound . Each amp adds a different color, frequency, and feel

 This is an old clip but he still uses this amp in the rotation.



 
 The UK Rig (He explains in detail)




 Another clip with the Two-Rock CRS v.1
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2011, 04:42:07 PM »

thanks for the replies, never mind the bonamassa part. i'm not really looking to copy his tone, i just like the tone he's able to get from them.

i'm looking for an american voiced (so no HRM ?), warm, thick, mid-heavy, smooth OD sound. which amp would be best ?
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2011, 05:47:24 PM »

Sry for the bonamassa mistake Smiley But I'm sure he uses the Van Weeldens here in Europe Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2011, 09:10:34 PM »

Yes he was using them and the Marshall when I saw him last summer in Montreux Jazz Festival.
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2011, 03:50:07 AM »

thanks for the replies, never mind the bonamassa part. i'm not really looking to copy his tone, i just like the tone he's able to get from them.

i'm looking for an american voiced (so no HRM ?), warm, thick, mid-heavy, smooth OD sound. which amp would be best ?

 Listen to a lot of clips on youtube and determine your decision that way. Certain circuits have certain characteristics. You can tell how Howard Dumble picked certain circuits for certain players

Non-HRM's will hold notes and bring them into harmonic feedback easily.The Overdrive voice is fixed . Note bloom is quick and easy. Very mid heavy, in a good way although.

HRM's are more dynamic and percussive, very touch sensitive. You gain control of the Overdrive voice with the internal Treble, Mids, and bass controls. This isn't necessarily a better feature, just different sounding than that or the non-HRM

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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2011, 03:49:18 PM »

what do you mean, the overdrive voice is fixed ? don't you have the TMB just like on the HRM ?

Is a two-rock custom reverb a HRM/or bluesmaster circuit or not ?
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« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2011, 05:00:12 PM »

With NON HRM's there are no Treble Middle Bass controls internally (only HRM's contain internal TMB controls). You can use the treble/middle/bass controls on the front panel (because the clean cascades into the OD). When you use the PAB or Pre Amp Boost it disables the tonestack to give you a boost.


 To my knowledge the Custom Reverb signature is a non-HRM classic with some values tweaked, a buffered effects loop (well half of one anyways) and a non-loading reverb (AKA non tone sucking) circuit.   
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« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2011, 06:47:21 PM »

and what do the interal pots do more than the external ? i'm new to these facts..


Ah, so, would i be best of with a standard OTS, or the S&M (which to my knowledge is the non-tweaked dumble circuit) for the custom reverb signature sound ?

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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2011, 08:27:08 PM »

and what do the interal pots do more than the external ? i'm new to these facts..


Ah, so, would i be best of with a standard OTS, or the S&M (which to my knowledge is the non-tweaked dumble circuit) for the custom reverb signature sound ?

thanks !

have a look at the good manuals Nik has written and put on the Ceriatone site, but to summarise:
The HRM has an extra TMB tonestack after the OD, which is only active with the OD. So you can scoop mids or whatever after the OD. Personally I roll off the top a little, to make it no more harsh than the clean tone. So far I prefer the BM50 to the OTS50
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