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Title: Best Overtone Special for the Two-Rock Custom Reverb sound ?
Post by: StevenStrat on February 06, 2011, 11:22:26 AM
Hi everyone,

i'm new here, i was hoping you guys could help me choose which OTS would suit me best. I'm looking for a very fat, mid-heavy, smooth, american-voiced, thick, creamy,... (you get the idea) tone, similar to the Custom Reverb Signature like Joe Bonamassa uses.

Which Ceriatone OTS model would be the best choice ?


thanks !
Steven


Title: Re: Best Overtone Special for the Two-Rock Custom Reverb sound ?
Post by: Thilo278 on February 06, 2011, 02:03:12 PM
I don't know which amp would be best, cause I just know the OTS S&M so far...

But one thing i want to add: Joe Bonamassa doesn't use Two Rocks at all. He uses mainly Van Weelden Twinklelands combined with a Marshall Silver Jubilee for his lead tone.


Title: Re: Best Overtone Special for the Two-Rock Custom Reverb sound ?
Post by: boldaslove6789 on February 06, 2011, 03:56:39 PM
 Joe Bonamassa has 4 (OR) 5 identical (Or at least similar) amp rigs between the United States and the UK. The Rigs are kept in different parts of the country's & are sent to different cities pending on when and where the gig is. He has a few Two-Rocks in his rotation. AFAIK he prefers 100w Custom Reverb Signature Version 1's.

 In the video (and other video's/articles) he explains that he digs the Robben Ford sound so maybe the Ceriatone 100w Ford Mustang (Robben's #102 ODS clone) & a C-lator maybe good for you.


 Also the Marshall Jubilee is always on in his rig so its a crucial ingredient in his sound . Each amp adds a different color, frequency, and feel

 This is an old clip but he still uses this amp in the rotation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBGP7P9FNn4


 
 The UK Rig (He explains in detail)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5GMTfY6yoc



 Another clip with the Two-Rock CRS v.1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIMiKAIXHks&feature=related


Title: Re: Best Overtone Special for the Two-Rock Custom Reverb sound ?
Post by: StevenStrat on February 06, 2011, 04:42:07 PM
thanks for the replies, never mind the bonamassa part. i'm not really looking to copy his tone, i just like the tone he's able to get from them.

i'm looking for an american voiced (so no HRM ?), warm, thick, mid-heavy, smooth OD sound. which amp would be best ?


Title: Re: Best Overtone Special for the Two-Rock Custom Reverb sound ?
Post by: Thilo278 on February 06, 2011, 05:47:24 PM
Sry for the bonamassa mistake :) But I'm sure he uses the Van Weeldens here in Europe :)


Title: Re: Best Overtone Special for the Two-Rock Custom Reverb sound ?
Post by: leodiditright on February 06, 2011, 09:10:34 PM
Yes he was using them and the Marshall when I saw him last summer in Montreux Jazz Festival.


Title: Re: Best Overtone Special for the Two-Rock Custom Reverb sound ?
Post by: boldaslove6789 on February 07, 2011, 03:50:07 AM
thanks for the replies, never mind the bonamassa part. i'm not really looking to copy his tone, i just like the tone he's able to get from them.

i'm looking for an american voiced (so no HRM ?), warm, thick, mid-heavy, smooth OD sound. which amp would be best ?

 Listen to a lot of clips on youtube and determine your decision that way. Certain circuits have certain characteristics. You can tell how Howard Dumble picked certain circuits for certain players

Non-HRM's will hold notes and bring them into harmonic feedback easily.The Overdrive voice is fixed . Note bloom is quick and easy. Very mid heavy, in a good way although.

HRM's are more dynamic and percussive, very touch sensitive. You gain control of the Overdrive voice with the internal Treble, Mids, and bass controls. This isn't necessarily a better feature, just different sounding than that or the non-HRM



Title: Re: Best Overtone Special for the Two-Rock Custom Reverb sound ?
Post by: StevenStrat on February 09, 2011, 03:49:18 PM
what do you mean, the overdrive voice is fixed ? don't you have the TMB just like on the HRM ?

Is a two-rock custom reverb a HRM/or bluesmaster circuit or not ?


Title: Re: Best Overtone Special for the Two-Rock Custom Reverb sound ?
Post by: boldaslove6789 on February 09, 2011, 05:00:12 PM
With NON HRM's there are no Treble Middle Bass controls internally (only HRM's contain internal TMB controls). You can use the treble/middle/bass controls on the front panel (because the clean cascades into the OD). When you use the PAB or Pre Amp Boost it disables the tonestack to give you a boost.


 To my knowledge the Custom Reverb signature is a non-HRM classic with some values tweaked, a buffered effects loop (well half of one anyways) and a non-loading reverb (AKA non tone sucking) circuit.   


Title: Re: Best Overtone Special for the Two-Rock Custom Reverb sound ?
Post by: StevenStrat on February 09, 2011, 06:47:21 PM
and what do the interal pots do more than the external ? i'm new to these facts..


Ah, so, would i be best of with a standard OTS, or the S&M (which to my knowledge is the non-tweaked dumble circuit) for the custom reverb signature sound ?

thanks !


Title: Re: Best Overtone Special for the Two-Rock Custom Reverb sound ?
Post by: Tone Control on February 09, 2011, 08:27:08 PM
and what do the interal pots do more than the external ? i'm new to these facts..


Ah, so, would i be best of with a standard OTS, or the S&M (which to my knowledge is the non-tweaked dumble circuit) for the custom reverb signature sound ?

thanks !

have a look at the good manuals Nik has written and put on the Ceriatone site, but to summarise:
The HRM has an extra TMB tonestack after the OD, which is only active with the OD. So you can scoop mids or whatever after the OD. Personally I roll off the top a little, to make it no more harsh than the clean tone. So far I prefer the BM50 to the OTS50