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Title: Real name of Clone Amps???? Post by: bluesHarp on December 31, 2010, 07:48:01 AM Can anybody give me the Real Amp Names of the Cloned Amps and
what Watts they are, Please. Cheers.... BluesHarp.... Title: Re: Real name of Clone Amps???? Post by: cmoore on December 31, 2010, 04:24:52 PM Every amp...? All of them...?
Are you brand new to guitar playing? With the Fender's and Marshall's, Nik uses the exact same names that the manufacture did. The Train Wreck, Hiwatt, Matchless, Bad Cat, etc. are a play on words that is so close as not to be in doubt. As far as power........It is pretty much an industry standard. 2 x 6V6, 2 x EL84, 2 x 6L6, 2 x EL34, etc. etc. The power does not really vary just because the name on the amp changes. Was there something in particular? Title: Re: Real name of Clone Amps???? Post by: wyatt on December 31, 2010, 07:19:40 PM Hired Hand is right, almost all the "clones" are named exactly after the original model number. Much of the rest aren't clones of one specific amp.
British... 18 watt...Marshall 1974x 20 Lead and Bass...Marshall 2061x JTM45...Marshall JTM45 JTM45/100...Marshall JTM45/100 JTM50...Marshall JTM50 JCM 800 2204...Marshall 2204x JCM800 JCM 800 2203...Marshall 2203x JCM800 Plexi50 1987 Lead...Marshall 1987x Plexi50 1986 Bass...Marshall 1986x Plexi100 Superlead...Marshall 1959x Superlead Super Bass 100...Marshall 1992x Super Bass 2550...Marshall 2550 Silver Jubilee 2555...Marshall 2555 Silver Jubilee American... 5E3 Deluxe...Fender 5E3 Deluxe 5E5-A Pro...Fender 5E5-A Pro 5F6-A Bassman...Fender 5F6-A Bassman 5F4 Super....Fender 5F4 Super 5E7 BandMaster...Fender 5E7 BandMaster 5E8A Tweed Twin...Fender Low Powered Twin 5** was Fender's '50's circuit designs...these are Tweeds, they have Tweed Tone, which is much more like Marshalls in tone, they do NOT have the signature "Fender Tone" you think of with Blackface/Silverface Fender amps Muchless... Spitfire..Matchless Spitfire Lightning...Matchless Lightning Dizzy 30...Matchless C30 Stray Bad....Bad Cat Hot Cat TW Clones... Expression...Trainwreck Express Liverpull...Trainwreck Liverpool Rock It!...Trainwreck Rocket Ceriatone Overtone...Dumble Overdrive Special Hey What? 504...Hiwatt Model 504 Hey What? 103...Hiwatt 103 All of the rest aren't clones. While based on vintage designs, all are variations and mods either designed by Ceriatone or common amp designs developed through collaboration online over the last decade or so. Technically none are clones, Nik doesn't do period correct clones, his are modern amps using classic circuits with modern components and features. You have the model numbers, you can look up the specs/wattage for yourself via google. Title: Re: Real name of Clone Amps???? Post by: bluesHarp on January 01, 2011, 06:13:00 AM Thanks for the reply.
Yes i am new to guitar playing,new to tube or valve amps, and new to this Forum.... I am after 3 sounds???? The first is The Shadows (Hank Marvin) which is Vox type Amp.... The second is Surf and Blues sounds ( Aust-US-UK )i think is Fender and maybe UK Amps.... The Third is Santana Sound???? I know all the sounds wont come from the one Amp,its just knowing what the amp does ???? I am looking for amps up to about 25 Watts maybe 30W tops-home use only. I hope this makes sence and sorry for the long post.... Cheers and thanks.... BluesHarp.... Title: Re: Real name of Clone Amps???? Post by: wyatt on January 01, 2011, 07:38:36 PM Thanks for the reply. Yes i am new to guitar playing,new to tube or valve amps, and new to this Forum.... I am after 3 sounds???? The first is The Shadows (Hank Marvin) which is Vox type Amp.... The second is Surf and Blues sounds ( Aust-US-UK )i think is Fender and maybe UK Amps.... The Third is Santana Sound???? I know all the sounds wont come from the one Amp,its just knowing what the amp does ???? I am looking for amps up to about 25 Watts maybe 30W tops-home use only. I hope this makes sence and sorry for the long post.... Cheers and thanks.... BluesHarp.... Honestly, some of these are weak points in the Ceriatone line-up. Ceriatone doesn't offer a traditional Vox. They do offer plenty of Matchless amps which are Vox preamp designs made tighter and more modern, they are the same pedigree...but don't sound the same as a Vox (though with a few tweaks..namely weaker power filtering..could). Ceriatone doesn't offer a Blackface-style Fender Reverb amp either. This is that signature Fender tone...scooped mids, spanky, shimmering top end, and tight, punchy low end and lots and lots of drippy reverb. The sound made famous by surf, '60's-'80 blues, classic R&B and Soul, and '70's country. They do offer lots of Tweed Fenders and vintage, lower gain Marshalls. These are the sound of more lo-fi '50's blues and more rock-based blues. They are very, very popular amps for today's blues players. For Santana, they don't offer a Mesa Boogie-based amp, which really defined his tone for most of his career. But they do offer the Ceriatone Overtone a few options that are very, very similar to Santana's current amp choices and they have the saturation to really give that Santana tone. For Vox and Surf, I might look elsewhere right now. And for Santana, it would be very easy to just buy a used Boogie Mk. II or something. The Overtone HRM Mk. II could be a good Santana amp, it's 50 watts though. For blues and rock, their are a lot of good options. I'll warn you the even 5 watts can be too much to be able to turn up in a apartment situation or a house with people nearby. Title: Re: Real name of Clone Amps???? Post by: bluesHarp on January 02, 2011, 12:35:31 AM Thanks for all the reply's.
As said before i am new to amps of any kind and do Appreciated all the help and suggestions that i can get.... Cheers.... BluesHarp.... |