That was my original plan. Then I went with another plan for 1*12 combo and that didn't work out. I think in the end the 1*12 combo may win the match after a few minor adjusts, but the 212 cabinet for zero dollars does sound very very nice and has the advantage of 2 speaks. I don't care so much how it looks. Probably keep it from getting stolen. I did some inquiry here about cabinets, and for the most part people were helpful. If you have a few hundred bucks I would just buy cabinets. If you like makind something from nothing, do what I did, it sounds great and cost nothing. I do have a bit of the rear panel switches sticking out the back, which could prove disastrous in a moving things/gigging situation. I like the twin, I have the potential option for a 112 combo and just need to do some measuring and tweaks with the producer. That would get me a "pretty" amp. But I am not sure that I want to be limited to a single speaker and why should I pay more to replace something I already did that works great?

Dunno. I will do some measurements and see. I wanted a 112 combo since I hate breaking my ass hauling an amp around. Decisions. I will probably end up with both and be constantly moving the amp between them.

Building cabs is not the easy job.

ooop forgot pic from back

Here is my hack job overtone. Made of 100% recycled poop. Cab is from a 90s powerchorus, modded to fit. the speaks are Fender stockers. I have tested the OT with three speaks that I have, the fenders (Brightest), a Music Man from the early 80s stamped C12G, which I suspect is a celestion G (happy in-between, good match for the amp), and a tone tubby alnico hempcone (very dark). I am probably going to put the tubby in here with one of the fenders for a makeshift "the bomb" setup.

Pics are the junk guts of a transistor fender amp and then the amp as it sits right now. I need to remember to put the switch to 16 ohm before I fire it up

This will probably be labeled blasphemy. I just got my OTS yesterday, messed around with it (a lot) and got fairly OK with how to get what I want out of it. I can't even get anything like the tones on the soundclips, so either my fingers don't work or I haven't messed around enough with it. Whatever the case may be. I have tweaked around with the internal drive pot and put it at 10. Might probably pull that back to 9 or 8.

Anyway, what I found incredible was the way this thing opens up with a tube processor in the fx loop. I can control the in and out volumes, have four more stages of gain to play around with and unlimited effects (I don't like watery over effected stuff, but this box has served me well into just about any amp for over 10 years, I just use my presets that I made).

I need to figure out how to make new presets that take the amp well, but it's so dry with no reverb, no anything going into that amp. With the rack on doing my stock cleans and in betweens, the amp just sings off the chart (to my ears). On the clean channel you can have a preset that's a bit more dirty off the tubes in the effects loop, and really adds some character, plus you can do some verb or a bit of delay. when you hit the overdrive channel, if you have a nice low-gain patch, the overdrive kicks in nice and smooth. Basically, by combining this amp with the tube processor I have a compensated effects loop, I have two more ax7 stages of gain I can use or not use, and I have whatever the heck effects I want. I am so unpure. I am using a digitech 2101 studio tube. It's fricken sick.

I don't own a single stomp pedal, I have a crybaby that I modded with a dual ganged pot so that it also performs function of a expression controller into my midi stuff. I haven't even started with that yet. I like all the pedals and stuff, but that was the road I went down that put me in the midi processor gear, which has served me well. I dunno, punish me, but I don't think I need to pay 150 or whatever for any pedal since I have way more than I need, tube powered and although the programming and pedalboard management (midi) is a bit of a pain, it's far superior.

Flames away brothers, but I am super thrilled with the potential of this amp with the fx loop running outboard tube gear. It's sick as hell. I am not here trying to cop RF or LC, but I could probably get close. I can't play well enough that it would matter. Right now, with more time screwing with speakers, internal gain, and settings, I am pretty sure I can get just about any tone of any amp out of this. Which means the tone I will get when I am happy, will be MY TONE.

Eric Johnson tone I am still chasing down. That's my wish I could tone, which is also, wish I could play like that.



 

Cab looks nice.

I just got my OTS delivered today - unbelievable how fast DHL moves. Total psych!! I have no idea how to dial in decent tone on this thing yet but its got a lot of potential. Using it with a HSS guitar right now so I can see how it behaves both singles and hums. Gets a really nice vibe going on the singles but I haven't got the hums figured out yet. I have been tweaking on the trimmer and find 10 o'clock is good so far. I might lower it some actually. I rolled it up to 12 and just seemed over the top.

Waiting on gab combo cab 112. Then I can start playing with some different speakers. Right now its just plugged into a tuby alnico in another combo amp. I think that speaker might not be the one for this amp, but we will see.

Hey, did you get it yet? I ordered about a week after you and anticipation...thx

Drew

If you want to PM me a reasonable offer, I will probably take it. Shipping will be nuts, so you probably should live in L.A. if you want it. It's a powerchorus. Real nice as far as fake solid state tone goes. Lot's of goodies, clean is heaven, dirty channel is fet, boost for leads, and analog chorus and reverb. With foot switch. I f__ing hate this amp. If you like crap, make me a good offer or else I am chopping her up.

I am about 3-5 weeks on the production list. Ordered end of april. I want to know if anyone has had experience with the gabkits combo cab? I am currently planning on just gettin the amp and messing around with some speakers i have (tubby alnico and a fender twin with "special design" blue emi speaks, then trying to determine where to go from there. I want to do a combo, 1*12 preferred for weight but a 212 always seems to sound better to me. I posted about trying to rape the fender twin and slam the ots in there, i might still do that since its a fet garbage amp with an ok fender cab.

Sorry for daddling, who has experience with the overtone cabs from gabs? thanks.....

I am counting the days....slowly

Thanks for a great post and for sharing the dimensions. That's exactly what I am looking to get into when I am done. FYI, the grille cloth looks a bit loose, maybe hit it with a hairdryer again to shrink it back up? Awesome combo. Really nice.

That was a great sounding clip! thanks for posting up.

sometimes a strat is just a strat.

Waiting on Nik to tell me the price.

Roland V-Synth XT for sale to finance the amp. Don't know if this is legal on this forum, but if anyone knows any serious synthesizer sound designer tweekers, this is the ultimate tool and is what I am moving to make the budget. I have done some pretty interesting things with this through my guitar synth to say the least, but it's best a keyboard players toy.

If this is bad please just delete the post, if you know anyone please let them know. These are $2200 new at the online stores fully discounted. I am selling for 1299 BIN and reserve is 975. Free ships CONUS in the highly unlikely event someone here grabs it.

I want to take this amp apart now and get it ready. Must.....wait......mussst. .....waitttttt..........arghhh

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180237802223

Thanks for the feedbacks. I am going to go for it. Unfortunately, I need to create some  budget for the project so I will be selling some synth gear. Need to get congressional approval where the budget must remain neutral in order to pursue additional GAS. Or else the wife will get upset, you know.

Hi,

First, this is a great forum and I have learned a ton just malingering here. I am ready to pull the trigger on the OT after hearing some of the amazing tone from some of the folks on here. It seems a no brainer to me and that tone is what I have spent my life pretty much trying to find.

So, I am not an amp builder by any means and plan to just buy the wired up ready to go kit without a headbox. I am on a budget also, btw so for starters here is kind of the plan:

I don't gig out anymore and mostly just play for fun and do some recording. I am planning on just getting the head, no head cabinet would like to just do a combo but as time and money permits, if necessary I will build/acquire a proper speaker cabinet and put the head in a cab as well.

I have a musicman RD 50 with a tone tubby alnico in it that I do most of my daily driving in. I was thinking I could at least tweak and test using that speaker and see how I like it.

On the "tone on a budget" end, here is my idea, which you will probably find laughable. An old bandmate gave me his fender power chorus that I have been using with my keyboard. It's the most god awful sounding POS ever if a guitar gets near it. All mosfet guitar amp 2 12" combo (the one from the late 80's with the red knobs). It works pretty good for keys and it's stereo. It's a fairly standard twin combo cabinet and loaded with the fender "special design" 12's (which I think are eminence speaks, not sure).

I was thinking I could get a decent sounding rig just by using this cabinet and speakers and doing some minor cabinet mods to accomodate the smaller width of the OT and just pop her in there. Again, as needs/tones change I could play with different combo's of speakers. I am not tied to the fender speakers but they are kind of just sitting here waiting for something to happen.

Is this a completely stupid idea? I think it would work pretty well and honestly don't find the fender speakers to be that bad when run from another amp. Plus I can recycle and it will look mostly like a fender twin, and initial cost nothing more than cost of the head from ceriatone. 

I guess one other retard question is what's the impedance requirement on the OT? Both the fender horns are 8 ohm and if I recall right, that means I need to run 4 or 16 ohms from the amp depending how I wire them. I haven't messed with speaker cabinets in about 20+ years so bear with my hacking of ohm's law.