I spent a good part of 4 days swappign different WGS speakers in and out of my morgan 2x12 cabinet. I found that the punch mids in the veteran 30s gave the overdrive channel what i was looking for with all switches down and the "boost", or eq delete, engaged. The veteran 30s are slightly different from the celestions - they don't have the upper mid "peak" that you hear in the new v30's - they are much smoother like a broken in v30.