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496  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Step by step BM HRM build... on: June 23, 2009, 06:49:50 AM
Yah I thought you had a good reason for settings. With your description; more mids with the overtone and more bass with the bluesmaster I imagine with that in mind that the overtone might cut through a bit better in a band situation and stick out a bit better in the mix.

Well at first I thought the same but when you play these amps really loud they act differently. OTS sound farty on the bass side and a little congested in the mids compared to BM. BM has better string definition as well.
That's why I said that my clips are not exactly what I can hear in person.
Judging these amps from clips or even worse, from youtube is really not fair. It will give you an idea but far from the real thing.

497  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Step by step BM HRM build... on: June 22, 2009, 06:03:22 PM
First of all I want to thank you for taking the time to do these comparative sound clips of these two models. I am considering to buy one of these in the future and was wondering which one to chose just like apparently many others on this forum. Both of these amps sound great in there own way but I would like to request if you have time, to try another one with all the amp settings exactly identical. In the pictures you have some settings at different levels and that Im sure colors the sound differently. Thanks again for the great clips

Unfortunately I cleared up all my gear,... this week I'm too busy for anything really and next week my vacation starts... so this will not happen anytime soon but I can say this even without clips...
OTS has more mids and BM has more bass. While OTS will work with everything at 12:00, that will not work for BM, at lest for me. Way to much bass and not enough body... at least for clean.
I tried to set the amps so they could be used in clean, clena+PAB, OD and OD+PAB without changing tonestack. The way amp should be used.

498  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Step by step BM HRM build... on: June 22, 2009, 06:41:21 AM
Thanks guys...
I'm a little frustrated, 'cause this didn't turn out as well as I thought. I did hear, that D amps are not easy amps to record... and I was alone doing this, so I didn't bother finding sweet spot on the cab.
...and also, as you can see my master volume was a little shy of 3. Even that was a little to much for my room but I can tell you when those amps a really cooking, they sound way different compared to that.

...but you all know that already  Grin


 Wink
499  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Build and Mod question on: June 22, 2009, 05:59:25 AM
Do you mean the deep switch?

Here you go...
http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?topic=1150.msg8233#msg8233

I changed the PAB since I took that picture... along with that, deep changed as well (a little).
500  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Step by step BM HRM build... on: June 21, 2009, 08:01:09 PM
OK guys here it is...
... but let me say something, I'm not happy with the outcome. This recordings do not reflect what I hear from these amps...everything sounds way to dark. I tried my best but it was a while since I was recording anything and I had only 2 hours and I didn't wanted to eq enything... but at least the conditions were the same for both so here goes nothing.

I used my ES339 for this session... I recorded first 12 bars clean, than OD and last OD+PAB. Clean was neck pup the rest is bridge with tone slightly dimmed.
As you can see on the pic, I used Fender style (open back) 1xG12-65 cab with SM57 in the face and AT4040 as a room mic.


I recorded everything in one go, I didn't change tonestack from clean to OD. You can see how I used the pots in this second picture.
BTW all switches were on OFF.


...and I had klein, RV5 and TC Vintage Delay in the loop (way to much as you can hear from the clips).

OTS -btw my PAB on the OTS is moded as BM one
http://www.jam-world.de/Musik/Mman/Ctone/OTS_ES339.mp3
BM-HRM (all HRM pots are at 12:00 - didn't played with those yet  Wink)
http://www.jam-world.de/Musik/Mman/Ctone/BM-HRM_ES339.mp3

This is the best I could do in a hurry,... maybe it would be best if I wouldn't post this and perhaps do it again latter on but I promised, so here it goes.
 Undecided

501  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Build and Mod question on: June 20, 2009, 05:16:37 PM
If I were you, I would not use the ground switch. It's on the other side of the chassis... it's not good idea to take preamp signal near the power amp and power supply.  This way you could pick up some additional noise.
502  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Step by step BM HRM build... on: June 19, 2009, 06:18:35 AM
SO WHAT do the internal trimmers do ?


With PI trimmer you can balance the PI section for better power amp performance... unfortunately this can't be set without the use of a scope. If your PI tube is balanced just turn it to 12:00 ... but it would be best if some amp tech would set it up for you.

The middle one is pre OD trimmer. Definitely play with that one. One of the most important things for shaping OD.

The last trimmer is for setting the FET input level.
503  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Build and Mod question on: June 19, 2009, 06:12:17 AM
Check out my layout...
http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?topic=1000.0

You will find deep switch instead of FET input.
 Wink
504  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Step by step BM HRM build... on: June 16, 2009, 05:56:57 PM
Damn, I will do it... I had everything ready last weekend but my wife got sick and I was stuck with the kids.  Sad

Perhaps next weekend, she's getting better each day... I'll certainly try my best.
 Wink




505  American Style / 5E3 Tweed Deluxe / Re: New Amp! Many "firsts" for me. on: June 16, 2009, 06:02:37 AM
When I bought my 5E3 my friend went for 5F4.
5F4 will provide more headroom and it's a bit tricky amp to dial in the tone... interactive tone controls here as well
...once dialed in properly it's a very cool amp.


Here's a few gut pictures I took at the time...
506  American Style / 5E3 Tweed Deluxe / Re: New Amp! Many "firsts" for me. on: June 15, 2009, 06:11:09 PM
I also use a Greenback speaker with my 5E3  Wink... and I have the volume/tone mod from Bruce as well, so I have a pretty good idea how your amp sounds like  Cheesy
I like to jump channels for a little fuller sound.

...and also,...my amp loves a tele too
 Wink
507  American Style / 5E3 Tweed Deluxe / Re: New Amp! Many "firsts" for me. on: June 15, 2009, 06:17:46 AM
 Shocked Shocked
That's an awesome built.


The most elaborate 5E3 I've seen so far.



So what's the settings you like the most and what speaker are you using with that baby.
 Grin
508  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Step by step BM HRM build... on: June 14, 2009, 06:48:47 PM
Well I didn't follow the HRM layout to check everything but from where I'm standing, it looks good.
 Cool

keep us posted
 Wink
509  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Rocket on: June 14, 2009, 06:43:10 PM
Rocket is very similar to a Vox "top boost" channel, if that's your thing... Express is more in the Marshall territory.
 Wink
510  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Custom Faceplate? on: June 11, 2009, 05:58:09 AM
Now that's something special.   Shocked
I think the amp like that definitely deserves it.

Well done.
 Cool
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