I've always wanted to see/ hear a TR vs. Ceriatone bout!

I see, though of course in such a short time, maybe with a little tweaking you can cover the thicker tone of TR perhaps?

Is that much of a difference or just barely noticable?

How would you descrive "thickness" cause I think ceriatones are thick with the proper settings.

Thats interesting. I've always wanted to compare these.

Mine is officially completed! I think it's adorable. Er, more reason to practice.

Yes I might do the same thing Gregg did with his 2x12. But I have to have the budget first. In the mean time I hope I get to try more tubes.   

After some tweaking while waiting for the cab.. here's a last look at the chassis. No mods yet but I'm happy with the tone. Low preamp vol and bright on for blackface type clean works very well as well as that TR clean with the vol halfway.



The cab! Oh the cab..

Stop it I'm gonna cry.

Lol PAB on at all times huh. THat's really a mid scooped amp compared to OTS. I cant switch that PAB on, it sounds awfully humped on any application.

I've always wanted to try this mod but I cant seem to get a clear description from anybody as to what it does exactly to the tone. When you say too fat is it like gainy, middy or just bigger sounding. I also wanna know how it reacts to preamp vol and master settings.

And btw, does this just invole clipping/ removing the orange drop along with the 2 resistoes it connects to?


@ HRK Yeah you def have a point. I don't have quite enough opportunity to play freely on real loud levels with this yet. But I can say that the stiffness doesn't completely go away with higher vol. Even at gigs I can't turn it up btw, its a very loud 50 watts indeed. Maybe much louder than my twin reverb before. Or any twin r's I've tried for that matter.

Thanks for the help guys. I'm definitely getting ideas here and will update y'all for any luck getting rid of the fast attack feel.

Yes you have to make ground contacts for almost everything. Also for the trannies. All the pots, switches, for the ground of the IEC, etc etc. The european whatchamacallit input jacks are plastic and doesn need ground. Better check with Nik too!

I see. We indeed checked everything on the guitar.  I guess he pointed out that nothing was really wrong except for the pickups. Maybe its time to finally upgrade to lollars or something.

I see. Maybe get a 50w Bluesmaster then? To save like 8 lbs? Would that be worth it?



Me, my main issue really is the fast in-your-face attack that I can't seem to tune out on my OTS.
I totally get the OTS mids and the g12 65 sound. What I can't seem to live with is the stiff attack. I also set my PI to about 7 volt more on pin 1. My speaker is broken in. I've discovered all the interplay with the controls. I settled with some tubes I like (except JJ's on the power which were there from start). I am also able to turn it up to about 3-4 master vol. There's this nagging stiffness that get in the way of my playing.

disclaimer:
I realize this is the same as my last reply to a thread I started "How to get rid of stiffness" but I've come to a new realization and I think my this would get more attention if its a new thread and besides, others might find it helpful too I dont know.



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I've been reading Steve and Erwin's Bluesmaster Clean Mod from way back. Basically they pointed out that the OTS have an "in your face" attack emphasis which I agree on 100%.

They also made it clear that the mod (to BM clean) made the clean more responsive with natural compression/ sustain etc. It sounds totally my thing.

Now Bluesmaster owners, are these things true then? Cause if it is, then I'm pulling the trigger for a future BM clean mod. I also like the clean to have less mids, more bass and chime. But I don't particularly like the blackface analogy with the BM. I'd like to think the BM sounds bigger and more like a deep sounding Two Rock. BM clean should be more than just Blackface clean. Is it? If so, I really think BM is really my cup of tea for real then.


>>> I've been thinking about the BM clean thing for a while too but am baffled with the thought of modifying the guts extensively as I realize this is not a simple swap-the board mod. Nik said I should make a list of parts needed for the mod. But frankly I don't have the ability to discern which components should be swapped out if I want the amp to have BM clean but stock OTS non hrm drive. (BTW I like my OTS drive just as it is, though it could still improve on some things like cleaner bass and more overtones/ feedback). And btw the JM mod which they say now is standard on the BM's is such a sweet bonus for me.

So any thoughs /help would be greatly appreciated.

Does anybody have a layout of a Bluesmaster Clean non HRM OTS?

Thanks a lot,
Nico

Thanks you guys.

I've been reading Steve and Erwin's Bluesmaster Clean Mod from way back. Basically they pointed out that the OTS have an "in your face" attack emphasis which I agree on 100%.

They also made it clear that the mod (to BM clean) made the clean more responsive with natural compression/ sustain etc. It sounds totally my thing.

Now Bluesmaster owners, are these things true then? Cause if it is, then I'm pulling the trigger for a future BM clean mod. I also like the clean to have less mids, more bass and chime. But I don't particularly like the blackface analogy with the BM. I'd like to think the BM sounds bigger and more like a deep sounding Two Rock. BM clean should be more than just Blackface clean. Is it? If so, I really think BM is really my cup of tea for real then.


>>> I've been thinking about the BM clean thing for a while too but am baffled with the thought of modifying the guts extensively as I realize this is not a simple swap-the board mod. Nik said I should make a list of parts needed for the mod. But frankly I don't have the ability to discern which components should be swapped out if I want the amp to have BM clean but stock OTS non hrm drive. (BTW I like my OTS drive just as it is, though it could still improve on some things like cleaner bass and more overtones/ feedback). And btw the JM mod which they say now is standard on the BM's is such a sweet bonus for me.

So any thoughs /help would be greatly appreciated.

Does anybody have a layout of a Bluesmaster Clean non HRM OTS?

Thanks a lot,
Nico

Okay I now set it at around 5. I adjusted a couple of things (PI, checked dressing again) and I think the amp sounds noticeably better.

One thing my tech told me, the JJ 6L6's have fast attack or in other words stiff. What can you guys recommend to me that would make my amp more "touch responsive" as opposed to "stiff"?
Of course I like the sound very detailed and balanced as much as possible. I don't want excess mids but will make exceptions. I've been reading reviews on power tubes but in at the end of the day, I am more confused. Besides, you guys here know what tubes work for these amps. Thanks!

You guys are right.

So I had my amp tech over to check on a couple of things. Apparently my pickups are faulty. We narrowed it down to my neck and bridge pickups which hums when you touch the pole pieces. It may not be noisy on other amps as he explained. He said something like the OTS is high gain. Is that true? High gain?

I see. I should do a big checkup of everything especially the ground in the amp again then and let you know. I've confirmed that my guitar is non defective, ive checked thoroughly and its quiet in any other amps. THanks Gregg.