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391  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: OK guys, this is my layout... on: May 01, 2009, 06:36:10 PM
I notice that you have changed the value of the mid-boost cap from 330 pF to 390pF. Did this significantly change the amount of boost in the mid range ?

Search through Pickmasters posts, he's got a mod that puts a pot in the FET input hole that controls the level of the PAB.
392  Website, Store / Support / Re: 1987x blowing HT fuses on: May 01, 2009, 05:22:38 PM
Not much help I know but you really need to take your amp AND cab to your tech and show him how to make the HT fuse blow. Then he'll be able to diagnose it.

As hiredhand said it could be a component on the board that got stressed by the Tranny blowing, but until your tech can replicate it reliably he's not got much to go on.

393  Muchless / DC 30 / Re: EF806 replacing EF86 ? on: May 01, 2009, 05:15:41 PM
I see... So this is not like a load for the speaker or alike... it works before the speaker out jack... Another question -I may be hijacking my own thread!-  Once you install this PS it will always be engaged? or it is some how bypassable if you want it to? or is it like MV that on 100% is bypassed? Huh?

It is always engaged but when the pot is maxed the voltages are as designed, i.e full on.

As far as I understand, this PS won't short life on your EL84's as a Hotplate would, because it works "inside" the circuit and not as an outside load. Please correct me if I'm getting it wrong.

Thanks for your answers and patience!

No, because you are reducing the voltages to get your power reduction, tube life is not reduced and may even be extended. With a Hotplate you run your tubes at gigging levels but your speaker is producing bedroom levels. They are going to reach the end of their life sooner, but it won't kill them.
394  Muchless / DC 30 / Re: EF806 replacing EF86 ? on: May 01, 2009, 07:56:18 AM

I am a newbie here, how does the powerscaling works? I saw the kits and they seem really "simple" if you compare to an attenuator...


I had London Power http://www.londonpower.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=7&osCsid=fb65c5b33618800e48a4fc0537eee5eebudget kit installed for me by an authorised tech. Its not a simple fit, cathode bias amps need a small fan to cool the chips. It works by lowering the B+ voltage and the bias supply along with it. Tone is affected but I can get good tone at much lower volumes than my Hotplate.

395  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: moving OD trim pot to back panel. difficult? on: May 01, 2009, 07:46:37 AM
I did mine a long while ago (and the FET) when I was building it. I used shielded cable and Nik does in the bluesmaster.  I used a small diameter pot Linear I think, but I really can't remember, same value as the trim pot. I used the spare holes in the back panel.

If you're competent with a soldering iron its a doddle. You'll need some heatshrink for the cable shield.

396  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: OTS MFX Recommendations? on: April 30, 2009, 07:13:39 PM
So, I hate to ask this question again, but if someone knows the answer, or where I can dig it up online, please let me know. If you can provide the following information about the OTS, it would be most useful:

1) Loop topology (parallel, serial, switchable?)
2) Loop Send Nominal Output Impedance (in ohms...)
3) Loop Send level (+4db?, -10db?, switchable?)
4) Loop Return input impedance (in ohms or k-ohms, or M-ohms)
5) Presence of a gain makeup stage at the loop return.
6) Nominal Input impedance of the main input

OK I'll have ago at answering some these , but you'll likely have to ask Nik or Mike(?) Klein.

1)  Serial, not switcheable unless you make your own. Passive ie no gain make-up what you lose is lost hence the need for the Klein or similar.
2) Don't know, sorry
3) I think the level depends somewhat on your input volume and ratio levels
4) Don't know, sorry
5) None this is a passive loop
6) Don't know, sorry

Personally I believe this amp is designed to be simple, after all it is 3 preamp valves and 2/4 poweramp valves. Compare this with my Fender Twin Amp which if my memory serves me well was 8+4. I had problems when I used my G# in the loop of the OTS on its own, it sucked tone badly. I then used a BBe Crossover to boost the signal prior to the G# and that improved it but I needed to be able to A/B and thats why I went with the Klein with footswitcheable hard bypass. It works well now. I strongly suggest you use a system that you can take out of circuit easily so you can be sure in your own mind its not messing with your tone. And it must be a true bypass, most of the TC stuff is not a true bypass as far as I know.

I think we can be sure that the combination of a Klein and any of the TC rack mount gear works well with the OTS, so why not go for this and get a really good Midi floor switch. There is no body of testing/opinion for other systems and if it was me and I was going your route I'd go for a Gigrig http://www.thegigrig.com/acatalog/FAQ_Amp_FX_Loop_Setup.html system. You could talk to them on the phone and I'm sure you'd get better service than from a big Corp like TC. I do believe you need to talk to someone who has actually tried a G-System in a PASSIVE loop and whose opinion on tone you can trust before shelling out for one.

397  Muchless / DC 30 / Re: EF806 replacing EF86 ? on: April 30, 2009, 08:14:59 AM
The EL84 is really like a mini EL34- somewhat 'crunchy' and it easily compresses - Hywel, have you the dual 5V4 rectifier set-up installed? - If not, that may be your answer for more compression & sustain via the volume control... my Dizzy is much smoother and refined than with just a single GZ34 rectifier valve.  I know what you mean though- the volume output is ridiculous, but the master volume sucks too much tone away for my tastes... I might give the Marshall Powerbreak I have a go... will report back.

No I haven't managed to find 5v4's yet, Hotrox haven't got any , but I'm in no hurry yet, love it just the way it is.

The Mullard EF86 is a very nice valve indeed, no problems with microphonics last evening and it does sound so warm compared to The JJ or EH. Will stick with it and get some more I think.

Before shelling out on a Powerbreak/Hotplate try one. My Hotplates work well with the OTS up to -8db  but with the DC-30 they are poor, thats one of the reasons I went for power scaling. I had it on about ΒΌ power last night and it was really nice. As I said before you do still lose something but its different to an attenuator where you lose tone badly.
398  Muchless / DC 30 / Re: EF806 replacing EF86 ? on: April 29, 2009, 04:09:22 PM
Listening to Buddy Whittington today I love his tone, DrZ Maz 38 I think. I wonder how close the DC-30 is to that and indeed how different the 36wattTMB Ef86 is to the DC?. I'd love to hear one, seems to me that I naturally prefer EL84 amps.
399  Muchless / DC 30 / Re: EF806 replacing EF86 ? on: April 29, 2009, 04:04:31 PM
I have to say the DC30 is one helluva amp for the money! 

Got to agree with that. I just need to know now which are the other hidden gems in Niks range? The OTS gets the most interest, but is it the best amp? well its horses for courses naturally, but I love the DC.


Gotta try it on higher settings without the pedal, I've found amazingly better than nothing, shame on me I always relied on pedals! I guess I should be scoring for one of those mullards....


Work the guitar volume knob, this amp is all you need, something I'm not so good at ,  I've tried pedals aswell and still rely on a clean(ish) boost, but I think in time when I master the volume knob technique I'll probably lose most of them.

Cheers

Hywel Harris
400  Muchless / DC 30 / Re: EF806 replacing EF86 ? on: April 29, 2009, 01:11:28 PM
Now in posession of NOS Mullard EF86. Installed it and its seems way better, I've just turned the volume up gradually and slowly and I can get it to MAX with NO squealing microphonic feedback. Previous valve I've tried you can't get past 12:00 and the one supplied by Nik was 10:45ish. These Mullards are still quite plentiful and because so few amps use them the cost is still reasonable, I paid less than the new price of the JJ EF806. I think I will keep the Mullard in reserve for gigs and use the JJ for normal use, and I will keep my eye open for another Mullard.

WIll let you know about the tone later, I'm taking it to rehearsal tonight, man are they going to complain about the volume!!!!!!!
401  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Overtone Soundclips on: April 29, 2009, 09:17:27 AM

Enjoy!


I did. Thanks
402  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Bluesmaster owners please check in on: April 28, 2009, 06:30:59 PM
Give it a good burn in. At least 24 hours, by all means play it but don't judge it until you have.
403  Muchless / DC 30 / Re: EF806 replacing EF86 ? on: April 25, 2009, 08:44:08 AM
No I've not really used a pedal much, this amp is so repsonsive that I can get pretty much what I need from the guitar volume and channel swapping.

I know it is loud, but I need to know that if needs be I can turn it up without fear of uncontrollable squealing microphonics. I am bidding on a NOS Mullard EF86 after the advice from Mark at Hotrox, as soon as I get one I'll let you know.
404  Ceriatone / Overtone / Re: Overtone Soundclips on: April 25, 2009, 08:40:24 AM
I remember John Edmonds reporting here that he has now sold both his TR's sicne getting the OTS. Maybe drop him a PM

http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=745
405  Muchless / DC 30 / Re: EF806 replacing EF86 ? on: April 24, 2009, 12:04:41 PM
It sounds good, if anything a little less bright. Its still microphonic, you can still hear it in the background tinkling, but its much less prone to squealing than the EH, though as I said before it was a handpicked example.

I'm going to try modding the mountings of both the valve base and the chassis to see if I can reduce microphonic effects because at the moment its not really useable with the volume turned up loud, fine for most gigs but still, you need to know you can get a bit extra out of it if you need to.
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