Based on that and some of your other posts, it sounds like you won't be happy until you get the Two Rock. So, why not get the Two Rock?

Well Jimi's clean on that track can be a lil tricky. Some evidence says he used a BF Twin on that track, other evidence says a JTM 45 in to a 4x12. For certain, he was using a strat with non rwrp in the middle and the either 2 or 4 position (actually the spot we call 2 and 4 now) and a good germanium fuzz with volume rolled back. That cleaned up fuzz sound is hard to duplicate.

I'd get a good germanium fuzz and try it with your OTS first and see if that gets you close before starting all over with a new amp. It may surprise you.

hmm. well let me ask this 

Little Wing by Jimi, SRV, or JM?

Suprisingly all three have very different tones when you listen to em back to back and use 3 very different amps and speakers to accomplish it.

Gregg

i can't remember if you have said before so i'll ask.

1) how long have you had your OTS?
2) How many hours do you have on it?
3) What kind of Cab/Speakers are you using, and how many hours do you have on them?
4) What is it about the clean sound that you don't like, and are you happy with the OD?

Gregg

best person to ask is Nik, but even if you can change the tone stack to BM spec, you will not have the same PI or the HRM post OD tonestack. Also, the component values on V2 are different, no snubbers, no LNFB on V1, etc


Gregg

i second that!! i love those gut shots. i wanna hear that sucker!

Yeah i'm lookin forward to it! After years od playing through JC-120s and JC-90s i picked the JC-90. I like the 2x10 config better, it's warmer and smoother than the 2x12 aluminium dome speakers; and it's a hell of alot more portable!

Gregg

My Roland JC-90 got dropped off this morning. Haven't had a chance to play it yet as i had to go to work. It is pristine! None of the usual cracks in the cab that you find on these. In fact there's nary a mark on it.

Now i will have the best tube amp i have owned with my HRM Bluesmaster and the best Solid State amp I have ever owned. I am in heaven!!

Gregg

**edit** put a more reasonable size pic on here

I agree.  You are gonna love it.

I also agree with Chris. My BM is probably the best tube amp i have owned. Even better than my old Blackface Princeton, and my Sovtek when it was new and functioning properly. In a way it is a combination of both of those amps, with built in fabulous OD to boot.

Today the FedEx guy brought me the Roland Jazz Chorus 90 i got off of Ebay. I'm sure it will be awesome. Now i will have the best tube amp i have ever owned and the solid state amp i have ever owned. what else could one ask for?

Gregg

I agree 100% with this

Glad to see i'm not the only one!!

Agreed. As Chris said. With the BM the more Marshall like tones can be there, but, really it's not like a plexi or JCM800 sound, at least to my ears. It's more of an early Marshall sound, or Tweed Bassman sound. It all depends on how you set your EQ, and what speakers you use, though.

That being said, if you turn the OD trim up and drive the amp hard, you can get more modern marshall sounds, hell even some early mesa sounds if you want, but it's not what the amp is best at.

To answer you question about my speaker changes; when i originally got the amp i had it hooked up to my 20 year old 4X12 with the 20 year old eminence Delta 12a's in it. It sounded ok, but i had originally planned to used the 1265 alnicos anyway, so when i got the combo cab and put em they sounded pretty good, but had a lil more bass than i was expecting and wasn't as tight as i liked, so i put the old Deltas in and was happy with the punchy bass. i actually considered selling the webers, but something told me to keep em. I hooked my mp3 player up to the amp and let it burn in while i was home and while i was sleeping to help loosen it up. The deltas sounded pretty good, but kinda sterile. I'm not sure if it was age or just the curve of the speaker.

Meanwhile, i had the webers in another combo, hooked up to a hifi playing music thru it about 8 hours a day for 3 days, then i put the webers back in the amp, and it was magic. They weren't flubby and they had nice smooth highs and mids. I like em for my sound, but that's not to say everyone will. A little bit of experimentation goes along way

Gregg

Well, I can tell you that the BM clean sound is a Blackfaceish clean, but not like what we are all used to. It is so much more alive and has a bigger soundstage than any Blackface i have ever played through. To me it is a healthy mix of Blackface and Tweed on the cleans. It really has alot of low end to it, and that makes it sound alot fuller than the standard Blackface. Some folks have gone so far as to change the slope resistor and bass pot value to lower the overall bass content, i just tend to keep the bass turned down lower.

I have mine driving two Weber 1265 Alnicos (Alnico magnet version of the G1265) and it sounds great to me. I had a pair of what were essentially well aged Eminence Delta 12As (lighter version of the 12A Pro which is Eminence's take on the EV12) for a while in there and sound really nice as well, very tight on the Bass and you could really turn the Bass control up and take advantage of it. so sweet.

As far as output tubes, i agree with Chris. I really dig the TAD WGCSTR shorties.They sound outstanding biased at the OTS's specified range, and stay pretty clean most of the way up, but give up the goods nicely when pushed hard via the clean channel and a lil clean boost or PAB (or both).

FOr preamp tubes, i have found that i like the ribbed Telefunkens so far the best, but they are pricey. For warmer sounds i like long plate GEs from the late 50's early 50's, but they are becoming extinct and pricey as well. thetubestore.com has their own "preferred series" of 7025s which i really like in V1 as well. I'm not sure who makes em, but they aren't sovteks, i'm thinkin there select chinese tubes like the TADs. The stock JJ does a nice job in V2 as well, actually. In V3 I like a nice strong well balanced russian tube, and i also adjusted the voltage swing between V3a and V3b to my liking. It was dead on the factory setting, but i found mine sings better at about 8 volts swing as opposed to 6 volts.

As far as the OD sound, i have found that there is such a wide range of tones available, that it is no surprise that no two clips sound alike. It isn't quite as compressed as the standard OTS or even the HRM which makes it sound (to my ears) a little more dynamic and doesn't sound like all the D-Style amps out there. It really has its own voice, and most importantly, you will probably find your voice, but it may take alot of twiddling to get it, but once you do, it's a beautiful thing. I will tell you that boosted cleans pushing everything to overdrive sound amazing on the BM, puncy and full, not compressed, it just sings. it's very addictive, when you finally get the amp and get it broken in, you will see what i mean,

Hope this helps!

Gregg

Very true!!!

Very nice!! Maybe the use of PCBs on some parts is what is allowing Nik to do more custom builds on the OTS?