And guys I didn't want this thread to turn into a slinging match any more than all of you, but when my motives are called biased and malicious im not just going to sit there and cop it, because its really not what I'm about...
erwin thanks for the suggestions, i will try my best but dont know how successful ill be
no offense, i think everyone that has posted a clip has hit some great tone, and are all good players. But to be honest i think they all kind of lean around the same sort of tone and no one has really showed the versatility that this amp is supposed to have...
or this?
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so, considering this is a competitor of the two-rocks/fuchs/etc.. i was wondering if anyone who owns an amp could please try to replicate this, from a two-rock signature:
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if that sort of tone can even be approached on this OTS, then i think we would all gain a much greater appreciation of the versatility of sounds this amp can reproduce.
and in the end this:
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(and im sorry i dont mean to sound like a troll!)
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they don't question the versatility of the amp, they question the versatility of the videos posted. there is a difference
What I object to is that the opening thread doubts the versatility of an Overtone because it might not just hit "that" two rock tone, when there are hundreds of different Overtone samples on the web. This is biased and malicious.
CRAP! i never doubted the versatility of the overtone, i simply said there were few clips displaying a different side! there was nothing malicious about my initial post, it only became malicious once you began vehemently defending the amp that i WASNT attacking. im not knocking the amp, and im not knocking the tone anyone has produced. and for you to say its malicious is complete rubbish, i did it with the best polite intentions
firstly, i didnt say it had to hit THAT two rock tone, i said i wanted to hear that more bluesy side of the amp which ive said numerous times throughout the thread just in case my first post wasnt clear enough
secondly, out of the "hundreds" of clips of the overtone, 99 of them are you doing the same jazz noodling and two or three give something slightly different, so you know what? if im going to dish a grand or more on an amp i cant try out in a store, i have every right to request some nice person to try and show me a differnet side of the amp, end of story, if that pisses you off, then dont bother with the thread
i dont want to be him, and i know that alot of tone is in the playing, i am NOT ASKING "if i buy the OTS, will i sound like mayer"
what i was doing was demonstrating a different side to an amp that is supposed to be similar, that is all, and then asked if the OTS could achieve this different side as well.
ive heard a few clips that do ok, one that does quite well, i just wanted to get a better idea, thats all
versatility in this amp for me means that not only does it display dumble characteristics, it also displays fender characteristics, which it should, because all D-style amps were based on the circuitry.
I have heard other dumble clones sound either like a dumble when they get overdriven or deep and warm like a fender, because it basically is a modded extension of a fender amp.
I have seen one good clip detailing this, a couple that come close, and many that just showcase the 'dumble' side of the amp...
i am pretty damn sure the amp can do the other part, which is why i want to hear some more examples of just that....
no it means can it do something else other than jazz noodling, which is 99.999% of what ive seen of this amp..
that two rock video just happened to be a video on youtube of an amp that is supposed to sound quite similar to the OTS, but displayed a completely different angle on the amps usage...
this is the closest ive heard to getting the sort of sounds im talking about
there are moments of some REALLY nice blues tones in there...
EDIT: AHH! go to 4:30, thats what im talking about, hardly any clips show off that sort of sound, now the question is it that the amp or the geek-screamer pedal haha
i agree with pretty much everything you said, especially this part
"I am starting to think that it is unfortunate that the the OTS' main claim to fame is for the RF/LC tone."
I think i just wanted to hear some other styles being displayed, and i do understand that computer mics play a big part in changing sounds
i suppose its because the original dumble circuit was based on an old fender, but ive only really seen one OTS video that tries to replicate that clean bluesy fender sound that apparently this amp can get....
look forward to seeing those clips once you figure out how to do it though
if you do manage to figure it out however, id love it if you could do a little bit of SRV - Lenny
gridlock: yeh that riff in particular is pretty nice!
steven: true tone isnt all in the amp, but knowing what sort of ballpark you can get yourself into is handy when you cant go into a store and play it for yourself
i like those clips have seen them before, but in comparison id have to say the OTS cleans i've heard sound good and clear but just slightly too "tinny" or a bit too thin...by that i mean there isnt a lot of low down resonance and nice bass to complement the shimmering highs, but im not sure if thats the way they have set the tone controls up or if thats because you simply cant achieve it, which is why ive set the challenge LOL
i say this all comparitively to the TR sound above however, on its own of course it still sounds awesome!
no offense, i think everyone that has posted a clip has hit some great tone, and are all good players. But to be honest i think they all kind of lean around the same sort of tone and no one has really showed the versatility that this amp is supposed to have...
whilst the distorted tones of this amp have been thrown around greatly in here, i am yet to hear an attempt at a mellow "make your heart melt" tone...
so, considering this is a competitor of the two-rocks/fuchs/etc.. i was wondering if anyone who owns an amp could please try to replicate this, from a two-rock signature:
if that sort of tone can even be approached on this OTS, then i think we would all gain a much greater appreciation of the versatility of sounds this amp can reproduce.
i only say this because although the carlton/ford tones are sweet, i would like to see if you can hit more traditional bluesy tones...
ps i think if that clean sound above was matched with a slight boost from an ibaneztube screamer it would just about be heaven from a speaker
cheers guys (and im sorry i dont mean to sound like a troll!)
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