its just that for something thats supposed to be based on a fender circuit, i havent really seen any attempt at a nice fender bluesy tone!
Totally agree, in the email discussions I've had with Nik he's told me that it will do good Blackface or Tweed type Fender tones, but I've yet to hear any demos of them.
Actually I take that back, there is (make that was - can't find it now, hopefully someone on here will have it) one demo out there on Youtube of someone doing the outro from Layla and they do get a good Fender-type sound from the amp...
Hi everyone, I'm seriously considering getting one of the Marshall 50 or 100w clones, and there's some confusion. Let me just paste my email to Nik:
On the 1987 Plexi, for example, Package 2 is $530, with assembled board, front plate, rear plate, chassis, choke, OT, PT. But when I go to the parts, the assembled board, chassis, front and rear plates, and transformers + choke come up to $360. Why the discrepancy? Does the kit require less assembly?
Nik responded that the $360 "doesnt include pots knobs selectors, can caps, iec socket, jacks, etc etc etc."
Does all that stuff add up to $170? What else is required for one of the amps?
Thanks!
I'll bet it does. They may only seem like small parts, but just think about the cost of new knobs/scratchplates etc for a strat - I easily got to £100 when I changed the look of my strat and there are more parts to make up an amp...
Ive got a Marshall Bluesbreaker alongside mine. Depends what you play I suppose. If you want a Marshall sound youll want a Marshall because the OTS just wont get there, but if you tend to stick with Fender type sounds then perhaps get something that does Fender better, something with a really nice tube reverb perhaps, like the Deluxe Reverb Reissue.
Cat
Hmm...except Nik doesn't make a kit of the Deluxe Reverb...
I've heard the OTS does a reasonable Fender Blackface sound (and according to Nik will also do a Tweed type sound!!), so I'm thinking that maybe I will go for the JTM45...
no offense, i think everyone that has posted a clip has hit some great tone, and are all good players. But to be honest i think they all kind of lean around the same sort of tone and no one has really showed the versatility that this amp is supposed to have...
whilst the distorted tones of this amp have been thrown around greatly in here, i am yet to hear an attempt at a mellow "make your heart melt" tone...
so, considering this is a competitor of the two-rocks/fuchs/etc.. i was wondering if anyone who owns an amp could please try to replicate this, from a two-rock signature:
if that sort of tone can even be approached on this OTS, then i think we would all gain a much greater appreciation of the versatility of sounds this amp can reproduce.
i only say this because although the carlton/ford tones are sweet, i would like to see if you can hit more traditional bluesy tones...
ps i think if that clean sound above was matched with a slight boost from an ibaneztube screamer it would just about be heaven from a speaker
cheers guys (and im sorry i dont mean to sound like a troll!)
Thats odd I was just about to post something that said exactly that, I am very tempted to buy one of these amps as they sound as if they should be amazing but all the sound clips or vids I've seen or heard I find quite sterile, and they are all noodling solo stuff! can someone out there give us some nice warm and earthy hendrix A bit of castles made of sand perhaps or nice warm blues rythm, and you're right everone seems to be dialling in the same tone, I find it a little spiky considering this amp is supposed to be modelled on Blackface Fender type amps, so come on guys give us some lush warmth and maybe even a chord or two perhaps and lastly some very different examples of what is tonally possible with the amps switching and eq.
cheers
T
Chords..??
Blasphemer..!! ;-)
Actually I'm very much in the "let's hear something different from the OTS camp"...
I'm looking to change my amp setup from my current Fender Blues Deluxe to a 2 amp setup of an Overtone Special and 1 other amp.
When the time comes I'll be getting the Overtone professionally built, but intend to build the other amp from the kit.
I've narrowed down the candidates to a JTM45 or 5E7 Bandmaster, but can't decide which to opt for.
I've heard that the OTS can't do Marshall-type sounds, so am leaning towards the JTM45, but then again I've always been a Fender guy so that pulls me back towards the 5E7.
Which do you think would be the better amp to pair with an OTS to give a flexible stage setup?
(And yes, I know the obvious answer is get all 3....and one day maybe I will, but for now I have to choose!!)
So I'm soon to place an order for a kit to have a go at building my first amp.
Is the JTM45 kit a good choice for a first build? I've never built an amp before, but have basic electronics understanding and am competant with a soldering iron.
I understand that Nik's kit don't come with building instructions, is there an online resource with any guides to building the JTM45?
Also, just so I can be sure I have all the right tools, and since my old ones are getting close to needing replacing.... Could someone please list what tools I'll need to build the JTM45...
Both amps are 6 watts. You can look up the info on these and many other Fender amps here: http://www.ampwares.com/ffg/ I refer to this site constantly; it is a treasure trove of fender information.
I was thinking about this one last night and the BF Fender I'd like to see the most is a 64 Vibroverb - either with or without the mods made by Cesar Diaz to SRV's...
I'd guess that Nik could build one as a custom job, but the cosmetics probably would be more inline with what he currently produces. I'd like to see a range of BF amp clones, with BF cosmetics....
The basic 18 watters are a simple two channel amp with a vibrato channel with tone and volume controls and a normal channel with a separate volume and tone.
The TMB version has a treble, middle, bass tone stack in place of the vibrato.
The TMB EF86 has a separate ef86 pre amp tube feeding the normal channel. The tone pot on the normal channel is also subbed out for a 6 way tone selector.
Ok, I'm a newbie when it comes to Brit style amps (shame on me as I'm from the UK!!), what difference to the sound does the EF86 have?
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(and im sorry i dont mean to sound like a troll!)