Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
November 23, 2024, 08:22:40 AM
Home Help Search Login Register
News: Ceriatone Forums are up and running!!!
 
Guests please register
Note: If you want to help you can donate to keep the forums alive.



Do you want to advertise on this forum ? Send me a private message.



Amplified Parts
+  Ceriatone Forum
|-+  British Style
| |-+  Plexi Lead, Bass, Superlead
| | |-+  super lead 100 watt vs. 1987 lead 50 watt
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Go Down Print
Author Topic: super lead 100 watt vs. 1987 lead 50 watt  (Read 9397 times)
radiohead, lol
Guest
« on: November 05, 2007, 12:05:19 AM »

might be a long shot, but what would the tonal differences be with these two amps? i already have a 100 watt super bass, but that's different from a super lead..it has smoother sound, with more lower mids.

doesn't matter how loud etc, just curious about the tone.
Logged
dstroud
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 3


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2007, 03:39:03 PM »

I just put together a 1987 Plexi from Ceriatone.  Stock, it was too bright for my taste.  I started making the front end more like the Superbass and found a nice compromise between the 2.  So I would describe the 1987 as just a really bright version of the Superbass, they both have a real similar essence in tone, just a different frequence response.
Logged
radiohead, lol
Guest
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2007, 08:33:58 PM »

Thanks for the reply

To be honest, with the super leads I've used, the brightness tends to go away when it's cranked up (quite loud though).
Logged
radiohead, lol
Guest
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2007, 04:56:08 AM »

Sorry, one more question;

Do the lead amps have a good amount of headroom? it seems my super bass lacks headroom a great deal...or maybe it's my hearing that's screwed up Undecided

I recently biased it as well (set it to about 35 mA), which should give me plenty of headroom.

although...I do have the channels bridged and the EQ dimed (excluding presence), but the volumes around 1 or 2.
Logged
ampkits
Administrator
Sr. Member
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 325


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2007, 07:10:38 PM »

Hi,

  The Super Lead vs the 1959, I dont think direct comparison is that valid. It's just not the same.

  The Super Lead has a different type of mojo. It's not overly bright, and it does have a bit of compression/sagging going.

  In any case, easy mods for the brightness issue.

  It's almost a quandary - consider this:

  Most people who can afford good tube amps could be in their young (hey!) 30s or 40s. And, probably, with many years of pounding music and other assorted vices.
  It is almost a given that this group would like a bit of bright. And the brightness could offend ones with lesser or no impairment to hearing.

  Could be far fetched but here I have an old timer who does amps as well. And often times, his amps are way bright even for me (I test amps on daily basis).

  So, in a way, it can be viewed as a "target market" type of thing? Heh...

Note to self: Bright switch selector in the "coffee maker" Plexi amp (Plexi with all sorts of mods so I dont have to drill plates and chassis anymore!)

Thanks!

Nik
 
Logged
Roe
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 101


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2007, 07:43:40 PM »

the 50w lead (1987) and 100w super lead (1959) are basically the same amp, one being ca 50w the other ca 120w. the bigger amp will sound cleaner and have more punch and bass. and a quicker attack. the 50w will be a bit more compressed.

from 1967 to 69 the lead circuits were changed from a bass/jtm type amp with a bright cap to split cathode, v2 .68uf bypass cap. the means that the the lead amps got brighter and dirtier. the later lead circuit wont have as much clean headroom as a superbass. your superbass isnt working if it lacks headroom
Logged
Pages: [1] Go Up Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.12 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines LLC Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!

CeriaTone Forum is not afiliated with Ceriatone Amplifications. The CeriaTone and name, logo and related trademarks and service marks, owned by CeriaTone. , are registered and/or used in the U.S. and many foreign countries. All other trademarks, service marks, and trade names referenced in this site are the property of their respective owners.