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Title: Which Overtone model for late 1980s Robben Ford? Post by: yosemitespam on January 13, 2010, 05:34:58 PM Who here doesn't have the "Talk to Your Daughter" CD?
Anyway, which model Overtone comes the closest to that late 1980s sound of Robben's? Does he still use that same model Dumble today, or is his an "HRM" model now? ??? Title: Re: Which Overtone model for late 1980s Robben Ford? Post by: bluesfendermanblues on January 13, 2010, 06:08:53 PM Nobody knows very much about Robben Fords amp, but the myth has it that Robben Ford used a Rivera Combo for the actual song 'talk to your daughter'
IMO the secret about Robben's sounds is that it's in his hands. 8) Title: Re: Which Overtone model for late 1980s Robben Ford? Post by: Pickmaster on January 13, 2010, 08:06:49 PM Nobody knows very much about Robben Fords amp, IMO the secret about Robben's sounds is that it's in his hands. 8) I would not say that! Robben’s tan Dumble is a non HRM, tweaked skyliner with old Fender transformers and runs on slightly high voltage. Pretty harsh sounding amp alone but absolutely magical with a dambleator, T.C. 2290 and G12-65s. Oh yes! His hands are very important too. Title: Re: Which Overtone model for late 1980s Robben Ford? Post by: yosemitespam on January 14, 2010, 12:58:18 AM Nobody knows very much about Robben Fords amp, IMO the secret about Robben's sounds is that it's in his hands. 8) I would not say that! Robben’s tan Dumble is a non HRM, tweaked skyliner with old Fender transformers and runs on slightly high voltage. Pretty harsh sounding amp alone but absolutely magical with a dambleator, T.C. 2290 and G12-65s. Oh yes! His hands are very important too. Something about that amp, like it's wound up like a spring and just explodes at the right time. Just leaps right out at you. Hopefully you wouldn't need a Dumbleator-Kleinulator whatever if the effects loop wires are 18 inches or less. Another simple solution is balanced connectors and cables for effects hookup? Title: Re: Which Overtone model for late 1980s Robben Ford? Post by: erwin_ve on January 14, 2010, 08:19:23 AM I use a bright cap on the amps master.
If I ditch the dumblelator and leave the bright cap: it's sounding horrible! If you ever decide to use a dumblelator IMHO the amp should be tweaked to compensate the loss of highs. The use of a bright cap on the master is one of those tweaks. One thing to bear in mind is, when using the fx-loop of the overtone without a dumblelator, the higher you set the amp's master, the more change you got overloading/ toasting your fx unit. Title: Re: Which Overtone model for late 1980s Robben Ford? Post by: yosemitespam on January 14, 2010, 05:02:32 PM I use a bright cap on the amps master. If I ditch the dumblelator and leave the bright cap: it's sounding horrible! If you ever decide to use a dumblelator IMHO the amp should be tweaked to compensate the loss of highs. The use of a bright cap on the master is one of those tweaks. One thing to bear in mind is, when using the fx-loop of the overtone without a dumblelator, the higher you set the amp's master, the more change you got overloading/ toasting your fx unit. You guys are really starting to scare me with the effects loop, something I've taken for granted on other amps for decades. I'm sure I could wire up a Kleinulator in less than an hour's time. Afterwards I'd need +15VDC and -15VDC. Counting the Kleinulator itself, that's 2 to 3 wallwarts for an effects loop that most companies include within the amp. All to power an 8 pin, dual op-amp chip that might cost a quarter. Sometimes I think I'd settle for an internal reverb and spare myself the agony of dealing with such an effects loop and goofy external boxes. Title: Re: Which Overtone model for late 1980s Robben Ford? Post by: erwin_ve on January 14, 2010, 09:29:28 PM I use a bright cap on the amps master. If I ditch the dumblelator and leave the bright cap: it's sounding horrible! If you ever decide to use a dumblelator IMHO the amp should be tweaked to compensate the loss of highs. The use of a bright cap on the master is one of those tweaks. One thing to bear in mind is, when using the fx-loop of the overtone without a dumblelator, the higher you set the amp's master, the more change you got overloading/ toasting your fx unit. You guys are really starting to scare me with the effects loop, something I've taken for granted on other amps for decades. I'm sure I could wire up a Kleinulator in less than an hour's time. Afterwards I'd need +15VDC and -15VDC. Counting the Kleinulator itself, that's 2 to 3 wallwarts for an effects loop that most companies include within the amp. All to power an 8 pin, dual op-amp chip that might cost a quarter. Sometimes I think I'd settle for an internal reverb and spare myself the agony of dealing with such an effects loop and goofy external boxes. If you're scared of modding and building and your happy with your overtone; get a boss line selector. Title: Re: Which Overtone model for late 1980s Robben Ford? Post by: yosemitespam on January 15, 2010, 01:55:44 AM I use a bright cap on the amps master. If I ditch the dumblelator and leave the bright cap: it's sounding horrible! If you ever decide to use a dumblelator IMHO the amp should be tweaked to compensate the loss of highs. The use of a bright cap on the master is one of those tweaks. One thing to bear in mind is, when using the fx-loop of the overtone without a dumblelator, the higher you set the amp's master, the more change you got overloading/ toasting your fx unit. You guys are really starting to scare me with the effects loop, something I've taken for granted on other amps for decades. I'm sure I could wire up a Kleinulator in less than an hour's time. Afterwards I'd need +15VDC and -15VDC. Counting the Kleinulator itself, that's 2 to 3 wallwarts for an effects loop that most companies include within the amp. All to power an 8 pin, dual op-amp chip that might cost a quarter. Sometimes I think I'd settle for an internal reverb and spare myself the agony of dealing with such an effects loop and goofy external boxes. If you're scared of modding and building and your happy with your overtone; get a boss line selector. Suffice it to say, I've done my time with breadboard circuits, op-amps, filters, power supplies. The Boss Line Selector is good for matching impedance? No degradation of tone? Is it passive or active? Sounds like a simple solution if the cost is right. I still say there's room for another 12AX7 in the OTS chassis for an effects buffer. |