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« on: January 06, 2010, 05:21:19 AM »

I have a great sounding TW Express Clone and looking for the OTS model that would work best with it in a multi-amp setup.
I'm new to the forum and have seen some of the write-ups about the S&M Special, Bluesmaster, HRM, etc, looking for any thoughts or feedback on pros/cons of each to use with the TW Express.
All of the clips sound great, so I know there's probably not a bad choice  Smiley

The things I love about the TW, going from great sounding cleans to full on overdrive with a simple turning up/down of the guitar volume knob.  It's amazing how the levels don't change dramatically but the overdrive and the thickness increase as the guitar volume is increased.  I just love playing through this amp !
What it doesn't do necessarily is the D-Ford type of lead tones, but I think that tone would work in concert with the TW, ala Bonamassa setup.
Thoughts or suggestions welcomed.
thanks,
sean
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2010, 12:46:21 AM »

The Dumble-type 6L6 amps are mid heavy.  It's that smooth pronounced mid-range that distinguishes the Dumble cleans from blackface amps from which they were derived.  In the same way, the Trainwreck El-34 amps are distinct from Marshall-type amps because of their heavy mids.  Compare your Expression with a plexi... the voicing is different, but its the strong mids in the Trainwreck that really stand out.

Generally, the point of a multi-amp rig (as opposed to multiple amps run one at a time) it to put together amps that complement each other and fill in the others' weaknesses.  Bonamassa does this with a Dumble-style amp running with a Silver Jubilee.  The Silver Jubilee, like most Marshalls, has strong highs and lows and hollow mids.  The two amps together give a strong sound palette from lows to highs.

Combining a Dumble and Trainwreck would simply put two mid heavy amps together, likely covering up the sonic signatures of each.

The Trainwreck amps are bright with strong mids and somewhat weak lows.  Maybe something with a big botton (Diezel?) would fill it out.

I would like to someday try the Bonamassa thing.  When listening to him, the Dumble voice is largely covered by the Marshall sound.  Actually, I find his sound is comparable to a Trainwreck because of the strong mids.  My thought is to combine a OTS OD channel with a DC-30 EF channel run clean.  I think the chime of the DC30 would be an interesting complement with the OTS.
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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2010, 08:55:53 AM »

My thought is to combine a OTS OD channel with a DC-30 EF channel run clean.  I think the chime of the DC30 would be an interesting complement with the OTS.

You will have to consider the phase of each signal I think, if you run them together or else you might get some cancellations.
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2010, 03:06:18 AM »

Absolutely.  Whether using two amps or two mics at different distances from the speaker, phase alignment is an issue.  The Radial Phazer is one tool.  Little Labs also makes a unit to align phase. 

For my applications, I like to add time-based effects after the amp.  So in a two-amp rig, the speaker outs go to a tool like the Palmer PDI-03.  From a pair of PDI-03s to the time-based effects.  Then any post-processing EQ and compression, then to phase alignment.
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