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« on: August 18, 2010, 09:01:56 PM »

Hello Everyone, just ordered an OTS from Nik, very psyched but my head is spinning....

Did i get the right Amp in the non-HRM OTS? My concern sprung out of looking at speaker choices and whether of not to make a combo? My ear is telling that the EVM is great for the kind of sounds i like but at bedroom to small club volume I'm concerned about the gain, will it be enough? I will have a C-Lator in the loop...

The reason i decided to order the OTS over the HRM was as follows: I've listened to a ton of clips on Youtube (thanks marinblues and everyone) and when i listen to the HRM clips i hear a harshness that i don't hear with the OTS. Not sure if I'm imagining this...  Moreover it seems like the OTS does the singing driven tone extremely well, and though the HRM does this too, it does not do this quite as well. And lastly since i have a hot rodded Marshall that i love, I thought, "get the amp that does the Dumble tone extremely well and bi-amp with the Marshall.... as opposed to the versatile all in one Dumble style amp"

So you know where i'm coming from as i chew on this... I play Strats, Tele's and LP's mainly. Don't run much for FX, usually a touch of delay in the loop and a booster or overdrive in front that compliments the amp in different frequency ranges... and as for what i play: mostly Modern Blues, Blues Rock, into Classic Rock and i will occasionally go for something heavy(ish). Roots are very cliche really: Hendrix, Zep, Floyd, (old) Aerosmith, (old)Van Halen. Lately it's been Albert King, Bonamassa, Robben Ford, KW Sheppard

If you were to summarize the differences between various OTS's and the players that might choose each, what would you say: OTS, S&M-OTS, HRM-OTS and Bluesmaster-OTS

Sorry for the lengthy post, i'm a tad over caffeinated but am very interested in folks input

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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2010, 09:33:39 PM »

Here's a little something to get you even more hyped :-D
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http://www.quinnamp.com/sdodescription.htm

Dumble amp types

Vintage is one of the older types of this style of amp. A bit more rooted in the raw Fenderish tone. This is the amp that established the legend. It can sustain like a mofo! It is a singing OD for sure. Not much compression, very touch sensitive and dynamic....

Skyliner I (low plates) (#124) is a variation of the above.  A new tone stack is used. It is a little less Fender but still a somewhat lower gain affair. That is to say it is very touch sensitive and it requires a dynamic hand to control the amp. Most people like to set the gain low and push the power amp, rather than cranking the gain and trying to dynamically reel it in. Either approach will work but I think this amp likes the pushing more than the reeling back. It has the same gain as the vintage amp but the new EQ is more "signature Dumble" and a little less Fender. Improved cleans from the Vintage model. It still sustains like a mofo, has a bit better string to string definition and is a little more refined in the tone shaping.

Ceriaton OTS = Skyliner II (High Plates) has more headroom, definition, and punch, more lively and responsive clean sound, smoother OD, and a small bit of compression, very touch sensitive, with lots of sweet singing tones.

HRM Skyliner II contains a second tone stack just for the OD channel. It is more or less a Marshall style tone stack this allows tone shaping of the OD independent of the cleans.  Smooth as silk, goes from clean to mean and transition between the two is amazing. You can pick clean, a bit dirty, grinding, soaring, all with your hand and all smoothly with definition. No rasp or buzz. Very refined sound with gorgeous smooth tones. A little more compression that the above amps but not in a bad way. Very natural with a dynamic response, that is second to none. This amp feels like it breathes with you after awhile.
Smooth singing overdrive, completely dynamic, never any rasp or buzz, no IM distortion or other uglyties. This is so far the most requested one and the amp I could not be without. It's smooth but never bland.

Bluesmaster Think raw early Fender/Marshall tone on steroids. The tone stack is decidedly Bassman territory, however because of its Dumble genes, and many other differences, it is far better. The clean is the best cleans I think I have ever heard, in a Dumble or otherwise. The clean sound will sing and sustain!!! The OD is much less smooth and much less compressed than the above amps. It has some early Marshall vibe to it. Boosted cleans with this amp are to die for. The OD is a bit more raw and edgy then some of the other offerings but with boosted cleans you get the smooth side of things and with the OD you have a less polite and refined tone. Lots of punch, sustain and singing but not as smooth as some of the other offerings. This one can be thick and dense too. Not dark and crappy, just "meaty"...Open clean cleans to mean and a little rude.  It is a big, fat, blues machine with lots of character or soul, which can play nice but still stomp in the dirt. It has a HRM post OD tone stack which gives a little more tone shaping and refining in the OD section.
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