Ceriatone Forum

 ;D After recent preamp tube change in my Bluesmaster...  I have found my preferred 12AX7's ...

Here's what I got going on:

Mullard ECC83 R.I. (in V1)

Tung-Sol 12AX7 (in V2)

Mullard ECC83 R.I. (in V3)

The Mullards have a really,really balanced tone but , they can be bright given certain applications.This is the first AX7 that I have turned the Pull-Bright Switch off (on the preamp vol). I am yet to find a tube  that is superior to the Tung-Sol 12AX7 that is under $20!

I believe I also have a Sovtek 5751 in my D-lator

Hope this helps some of you! :D

i agree with you i put mullards RI in too and the tone is perfect....at all volumes
however an EH for V3 seems to give a little more clarity, albeit drives the output tubes a little less hard

I've tried several EH tubes and never had any success with them. The lows were always boomy ( if thats even a term? )

Is that New Sensor?

 Yes it's New Sensors Reissue, @ almost $18 I think they're worth the dough ,fo sho

$ 18 is cheap. I looked around. Thery are difficult to find in Holland. I ordered a couple of Tung Sols. Not that expensive either and they say they are realy good.

Regarding recommendation of tubes in preamp

V1+V2 = JJ 83s,
V3       = Sovtek LPS 83,

V5+V6= TAD 6L6 small bottle (RCA Blackplate copy) or SED Winged C

Dito (exactly the same)
I don't care for Winged C though.

What is every1 been using in their D-lators? I was thinking I'd invest in a few NOS tube's to try out.

What I am using is
V1 = JJ 803s
V2 = JJ 83s
V3 = Sovtek LPS
V4+5 = JJ 6L6's

I'm still experimenting but it is getting closer to the sound I want.
I will be ordering a C-Lator kit in the next 2 - 3 weeks so it will be interesting to see what eveyone is using there

Interesting subject
I have no idea what's in mine. Maybe Erwin can shed some light.

I have  OTS 50-Watt, what are the best tubes to get me closer to a TR Classic Reverb clean tone?

 Two Rock has multiple proprietary circuit designs, that being said tube changing won't necessarily get you there.

  Most of their amps are based around the non-hrm vein although. The Classic Reveb has a buffered loop and that will change the sound also, not to mention the reverb circuit is crucial to the design platform also.

 And to note:

The 50w Classic Reverb is tube rectified;
 the 100w solidstate rectified.

 The Classic Reverb is also a Steel String singer influenced amp having tweaks from the John Mayer sig amp/ The Sterling Sig ( Exact SSS clone ) and the Custom Clean ( Two-Rocks take on the SSS/150w Dumble Land Special " The white glove SRV amp") ala "texas flood" in a can
 

 ....... I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.

Thanks, but what are considered the best tubes to use in a OTS 50-watt to maximize the clean channel, if that is a better question? 

Also, I get a booming (rattle the walls - like a bass player) bass when I only hit the low E string, is this a tube issue??

Thanks.

 What are you using for speakers? 

A friend of mine bought over an old Mullard yesterday and we put it in V1 in my HRM50.

All I can say is Mullard ECC83s in V1 = WINNER.

It smoothed out everything and had the best warm tone in both clean & lead.

I prefer a JJ 83S over my old (very old :-) ) Mullard - never tried a NOS though.

I have yet to try JJ preamp tubes but have used a quad of pwr tubes B 4 and I have no complaints. I'll have to try some ecc83s soon.

I have tried JJ's TAD's and Tung Sols. The Tung Sols are my Fav's. Tried the TAD out yesterday in my friends OTS. They sounded nice in V2. We didn't like them in V1 though.

Sovtek LPS in V3



But what is the best tube (most transparant) for de Dumblelator?

I finally tried a few different Amperex Ecc83's in my D-lator. They were tested, NIB never used. I got em on a trade for a pedal. I also tried them in all positions in my BM and settled on 1 in the PI, 1 in the D-lator. I've yet to adjust the PI trimmer so I can only imagine Bloom will be even more apparent.

 Here's what they are, if you ever get the chance, try one:

 http://tctubes.com/Amperex-12AX7-ECC83-7025A-Amperex-Hammond-matched-pair.aspx

I run my OTS 50-watt through two (2) 1x12 cabs.  One is a Two Rock Sig Cab with 1265B and other cab is loaded with a EVM12L.  I use a Kleinulator in loop.

Thanks for your help!!

hi guys further my previous posts..... (HRM50 with 3 mullard reissues) i recently was servicing an amp for someone which had SOVTEK 12ax7WA tubes.... well he wanted the tubes changed.... so i took the liberty of trying the sovteks on the HRM50.

after a bit of experimentation i have now settled on the Sovtek in V1 and mullards for v2 and v3. the amp has little less gain but more "open" especially with a strat or firebird.......even at higher levels of gain in the overdrive channel, these guitars ring true and sound excellent.

i will stay with this config (for now as it seems to give the best overall tone and clarity and warmth)

there is a Sovtec 12ax7 LPS available (long plate version) which i am yet to try, and may do so when i get one.


the tone and overall warmth and clarity is great on either channel with this current valve complement.

BUMP

 
 I think all D-style (and a bunch of other style amps)  can be quite bassy with the EV-12L (IMO) My Bluesmaster is quite bassy (Rattling shit around the cab also) and I run 2 Ev's in a ported cab. . You just have to EQ your amp different @ home or when practicing. AT gigs (When the volume levels are really loud!) my amps cuts through the mix very nicely and I don't notice the predominant bass levels. Ev's are the only speaker that produce these huge lows that dumble style amps can dish out. I would not worry about it, your amp is fine.

If you have a boomy bass stay away from JJ's!

I suggest tungsol in v1 and v3 for a smoother more controlled bass. V2 (IMO) should generally have the warmest most harmonicly rich tube you can find. IF you can afford NOS for V2 mullard is a good choice. Similar to the tung sol with less chime.

I would recommend Tung-sol's too but I've had too many fail on me in the past few weeks that its not worth it anymore. I do agree although that they sound great and I haven't found a tube that rivals with them, however the RI Mullard ECC83's sound F 'in great to my ears. JJ's can be stiff but they're very resilient consistent and longevity is not an issue with them, however they can be quite sterile sounding IMO.

Thanks guys, for feedback, when time to chenge tubes, will look into, I'm not a tweaker, just funny that the bass only booms on low "E" string only......my poor neighbors must think I have a bass player in my house.

Never thought I would complain with a Strat being too bassy..lol.

Really appreciate your help always!!