Title: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: boldaslove6789 on March 18, 2011, 06:29:23 AM Took some clips 2day of my Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone Bluesmaster PWR amp.
Quinn 183 Preamp Into a 100w Bluesmaster Pwr amp. TC M300 in the Loop via D-lator with 270pF RG-400 cables (with Master Bright cap ON) 2x12 Ported D-style Cab with Celestion G1265's Using a MIJ Fender strat with Burstbuckers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXZdn-8INro&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4FDjBuIR1U&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL This one has the FET ON (Warren Haynes/Hendrix inspired me) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFCpTFsrJ7c&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: mcinku on March 18, 2011, 06:42:52 AM Sounds awesome.... can you perhaps switch between 183 Quinn and Bluesmaster preamp on the fly.
I would love to hear the difference side by side in the same clip. ;) Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: Steven_nl on March 18, 2011, 10:26:58 AM Yeah Greg knows tone ;D
sounds great, but then again you allways sound great Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: Pickmaster on March 18, 2011, 11:10:45 AM Sounds very nice, probably the best drive tone compare to your older recordings.
playing is lovely as usual. Give us a clean tone with same guitar and also comparison to the Ceratone's preamp please. Cheers Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: SoundPerf on March 18, 2011, 11:16:25 AM Sounds incredible. Would love to hear it in person. I missed the FET clip over at ampgarage. Boy that is really driving.
Cool grill cloths on the amp and cab. Is the RG400 cable any special brand? Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: bluesfendermanblues on March 18, 2011, 04:10:09 PM Bold, it sounds really great.
Are those RG400 cables at 270pf per cable or in total regards Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: boldaslove6789 on March 18, 2011, 06:32:33 PM Sounds awesome.... can you perhaps switch between 183 Quinn and Bluesmaster preamp on the fly. Yeah I'm working on a remote preamp switcher for the both of them, waiting for parts from mouser. When I get everything setup I'll make another clip to compare. Right now I'm diggin this configuration because its like having 2 amps in one. Is the RG400 cable any special brand? Nah, just look for MIL-DTL-17 spec'd (make sure the conductor is stranded) coaxial cable like this: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/coaxialcableconnectors3.php Are those RG400 cables at 270pf per cable or in total Yes they're 270 pF per side (send & return from D-lator) Thanks for all your kind words guys. Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: mcinku on March 18, 2011, 07:31:42 PM When I get everything setup I'll make another clip to compare. When you promise something here, you better deliver or we will find you... ;D ;D ;) Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: Nairbr on March 19, 2011, 05:28:46 AM Seriously Nice Tone ;D
Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: flexmachine on March 19, 2011, 11:04:33 AM @boldaslove: Where can I get this nice Rack that fits between the head and the cab?
Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: hywelg on March 19, 2011, 03:02:31 PM When I built my K-ulator I also built this 3U rack housing to match the OTS.
I bet if you asked any cab maker would make you one, it's dead simple. Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: bluesfendermanblues on March 19, 2011, 04:02:31 PM @boldaslove: Where can I get this nice Rack that fits between the head and the cab? Looks like an SKB X-rack 4 Unit version. I have two 2unit x rack. They are very light shallow racks. Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: boldaslove6789 on March 19, 2011, 08:37:37 PM Yeah its just a standard 4U SKB road rack. I see myself switching to a 10 rack in the future and utilizing a Custom Audio Electronics type remote effects switcher.
Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: plasticvonaband on March 22, 2011, 11:24:41 PM Took some clips 2day of my Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone Bluesmaster PWR amp. Quinn 183 Preamp Into a 100w Bluesmaster Pwr amp. TC M300 in the Loop via D-lator with 270pF RG-400 cables (with Master Bright cap ON) 2x12 Ported D-style Cab with Celestion G1265's Using a MIJ Fender strat with Burstbuckers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXZdn-8INro&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4FDjBuIR1U&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL This one has the FET ON (Warren Haynes/Hendrix inspired me) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFCpTFsrJ7c&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL Sounds Awesome!!! :chairdance: I have a very stupid question. How do you use the D-Lator if you are using the power amp input on the Bluesmaster amp? I am gathering it is somehow directly wired via the Coax; am i correct in assuming you wire the coax connection on the inside of the Bluesmaster and run the coax out? Told you it was a stupid question ;) Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: boldaslove6789 on March 23, 2011, 07:21:08 AM That's alright, here's how its all set up:
The input from the guitar goes to the preamp The preamp has an output (Or "Send") That Output goes to the Input of the D-lator The Output of the D-lator goes to the Input (Or "Return")Bluesmaster's power amp. I'm using RG-400 with 1/4 plugs as regular connection cord from the Preamp+Pwr to the D-lator. Each length of cord is 270pF. The concept is quite simple, all I'm doing is substituing one preamp for another. Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: plasticvonaband on March 23, 2011, 08:22:31 AM Cool. I figured it had to be simpler than what i was thinking. I figured you were going from the preamp out from the quinn and then into the power amp in on the BM, just didn't know where the dlator went in :). Sounds great, and thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: johanare on March 24, 2011, 06:45:02 AM Quote Is the RG400 cable any special brand? Nah, just look for MIL-DTL-17 spec'd (make sure the conductor is stranded) coaxial cable like this: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/coaxialcableconnectors3.php Are those RG400 cables at 270pf per cable or in total Yes they're 270 pF per side (send & return from D-lator) Hi Need some "patch" cables between my Ojai-type of amp and the D-Lator. Using the DLator w long cables or no DLator is a HUGE difference soundwise. I need some new cables since I use some high quality but very long guitar cables at the moment. I see mention of 270pF total for each cable going to and from the amp. The cables specs are about 80-90pF/meter (30pF/ft). Does this mean your cables each are about 3 meters long? Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: boldaslove6789 on March 24, 2011, 02:54:08 PM Both of the cables are 270 pF individualy, not the total of the two.
Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: rane008 on March 24, 2011, 04:08:11 PM Quote Is the RG400 cable any special brand? Nah, just look for MIL-DTL-17 spec'd (make sure the conductor is stranded) coaxial cable like this: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/coaxialcableconnectors3.php Are those RG400 cables at 270pf per cable or in total Yes they're 270 pF per side (send & return from D-lator) Hi Need some "patch" cables between my Ojai-type of amp and the D-Lator. Using the DLator w long cables or no DLator is HUGE. I need some new cables since I use some high quality but very long guitar cables at the moment. I see mention of 270pF total for each cable going to and from the amp. The cables specs are about 80-90pF/meter (30pF/ft). Does this mean your cables each are about 3 meters long? One way to go is get some George L cable and connectors (Lava also make some). No soldering required and you can cut them to the length you need. I run these between my C-lator and amp which are in the same head cab. Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: johanare on March 24, 2011, 08:15:29 PM Both of the cables are 270 pF individualy, not the total of the two. YES, total of 270pF for each cable. Have you measured? RG400 cables is about 80-90pF/meter (30pF/ft). Does this mean your cables are 3 meters (about 10feet) long? Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: boldaslove6789 on March 25, 2011, 07:17:04 AM YES, total of 270pF for each cable. Have you measured? RG400 cables is about 80-90pF/meter (30pF/ft). Does this mean your cables are 3 meters (about 10feet) long? Yes I measured, they're approx.10ft. You have to measure them with a pF meter for them to be accurate although, not just by length. Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: johanare on March 25, 2011, 12:09:55 PM Oh, I'll go home and see what the cables I use now measure.
I guess the jacks give some capacitance too. Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: MacTone12ax7 on May 05, 2011, 11:47:35 PM I have just completed the same setup using a G-Sharp from TC Electronic and a C-Lator into an OTS50 - concern about the hiss coming from the G-Sharp, have you experienced same thing?
Thanks Title: Re: Quinn 183 pre with Mill Creek/Ceriatone BM PWR amp Post by: boldaslove6789 on May 06, 2011, 08:24:05 PM What is your rig in detail? Are you using a power conditioner with all grounded plugs? My D-lator does not have a grounded plug BTW. |