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olafvandijk1970
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« on: February 01, 2013, 10:41:03 AM »
Cuz mine sure don't... Angry
OTS 50 S&M
After tubeswap (s) , rebias, speaker upgrades to all the 'instant magic' it still sounds shit and gets laffd at by any of my blackface fender amps.

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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2013, 03:19:24 PM »
I refer you to your previous post.....

http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?topic=4879.0

What has changed?
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2013, 06:12:04 PM »
Quote from: g_agnew on February 01, 2013, 03:19:24 PM
I refer you to your previous post.....

http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?topic=4879.0

What has changed?


Different amp
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2013, 06:17:07 PM »
And.... i woke up.
You hear what you want to hear.
And i put it next to 3 blackface amps.

It is imho very possible 1000+ buyers are t h e dumbest mofo's getting dooped by a guy that implemented highgrade behavioural psychology to sell pipedream amps
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2013, 06:58:05 PM »
Tone is in the ear of the beholder.
D amps may be based on Fender designs, but they are NOT Fenders.
If you want blackface tones - stick with your blackface amps.

But why do you feel the need to insult owners of D style amps who are very happy with them?
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2013, 09:18:38 PM »
Quote from: GuitarHack on February 04, 2013, 06:58:05 PM
why do you feel the need to insult owners of D style amps who are very happy with them?

1000+ Ceriatone, Bludotone, Fuchs, Two Rock, Red Plate and other amp users are very happy with their tone.
Must be something wrong with your amp!
Be cool.
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2013, 02:29:34 AM »
Quote from: GuitarHack on February 04, 2013, 06:58:05 PM
Tone is in the ear of the beholder.
D amps may be based on Fender designs, but they are NOT Fenders.
If you want blackface tones - stick with your blackface amps.

But why do you feel the need to insult owners of D style amps who are very happy with them?
Indeed. To me, the closest  D style amp to the fender sound is the bluesmaster, and even then it is more of a mix of tweed and blackface, more into brownface the more i play it. a couple of component swaps and it can be VERY blackface.

Sounds like maybe something is amiss with yours. as Dr Ika stated above, 1000's of folks are happy with the D Clones, regardless of who made em.

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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2013, 10:52:35 PM »
I have a Two Rock Studio Pro 100, a Fuchs SLX ODS 100, Vibro King (Modded), an HRM Bluesmaster 100 and an FM100 Ceriatone.
I have had a Blackface 65 Super Reverb (original) with all original iron.
My Ceriatone amps are not taking a back seat to the others.......they are ALL great amps Chair Dance

Speaker cabs, tubes, pickups, pedals, room acoustics...etc all can make an amp sound like heaven or crap.
BTW, I prefer EVM12Ls in 1x12 or 2x12 cabs with open backs.

Dumble sounds aren't for everyone.
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2013, 03:53:13 AM »
Quote from: AustinR9Powers on February 09, 2013, 10:52:35 PM
I have a Two Rock Studio Pro 100, a Fuchs SLX ODS 100, Vibro King (Modded), an HRM Bluesmaster 100 and an FM100 Ceriatone.
I have had a Blackface 65 Super Reverb (original) with all original iron.
My Ceriatone amps are not taking a back seat to the others.......they are ALL great amps Chair Dance

Speaker cabs, tubes, pickups, pedals, room acoiustics...etc all can make an amp sound like heaven or crap.
BTW, I prefer EVM12Ls in 1x12 or 2x12 cabs with open backs.

Dumble sounds aren't for everyone.

Indeed. The S&M, which is what i believe Olaf is having trouble with, is especially quite specialized.

from mciknu: "Overtone S&M Special Skyliner nonHRM
Overall brighter amp compared to standard OTS... clean tone is more or less the same (just a tad brighter), on the other hand OD is brighter, more aggressive sounding. Like OTS this amp likes to sustains. In my experience this amp is not designed to switch from clean to OD on the fly. You have to set the clean and stick with it... than go to OD, set the tone again and play that for a while."

the boldface part might be part of the issue

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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2013, 06:38:19 AM »
My OTS 100 has a clean tone comparable to black face fender amps. The voicing is a bit different with more prominent mids. I think black face fenders loose something significant with the reverb turned off, so perhaps you need to look at that side of things.
I have a TC Nova reverb in the loop on the OTS and it sounds glorious..!
I`ve owned twin & super reverbs.. and both great amps, although i don`t feel they are superior to the OTS.
Cheers..
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