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Title: Overtone special settings help
Post by: Jazzacast55 on April 13, 2012, 09:00:23 AM
Hi Guys,

I'm new to this forum and this is my first post.
I after some help with some settings on my overtone special, I can't have it very loud at home because I live in an apartment with neighbours but I use it for gigs and I never can quite get super clean as I mostly need it for the clean tone.
Could anyone help with suggesting setting to have it super clean and so I can get a bunch of volume out of it?
Thanks for the help in advance. :)


Title: Re: Overtone special settings help
Post by: jesus on April 13, 2012, 06:47:47 PM
Hello.

I have an OTS 100W. In my opinion and with my particular amp, the best loud cleans that are "really clean"  are with volume at 6-7 and master at 3,5. Beyond that, it begins to breakup a little, but it is very loud at this point.
I think that the bias is very important for this too. Mine is at 32mv. The higher, the earlier breakup.

Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Overtone special settings help
Post by: rane008 on April 13, 2012, 10:49:47 PM
Did you buy a buffer unit (kleinulator or Clator) with it? These can be used as a global master...


Title: Re: Overtone special settings help
Post by: jesus on April 15, 2012, 01:05:55 PM
Nop. I plug my guitar ('68 Guild Starfire V) directly to the amp with nothing in the loop. This is my setting for my jazz fussion trio. I think that the buffer have nothing to do with the clean headroom. This is only my opinion cause I'm not an expert.


Title: Re: Overtone special settings help
Post by: Jazzacast55 on May 07, 2012, 02:52:26 PM
Hi Guys,

Thanks for the replies, I'll give them ago.
Every now and then I get it pretty clean but there is sometime that little crunch when I hit a chord or note hard.
I'm using it for mostly jazz so a clean sound for me is ideal.
I have the od trim on the back set very low and I've had the volume around 3 and the master 4 or 5, eq flat.
I'm not totally sure what to do with the ratio section, any ideas??
I have it switched to rock,deep and bright as I like the clean nice and bright so it can cut through at gigs.
I'm not sure of the bias, might have to look into it.
Appreciate the help guys!


Title: Re: Overtone special settings help
Post by: Jazzacast55 on May 07, 2012, 02:58:23 PM
I also have my guitar plugged in to the norm, which would be better for clean, norm or Fet?


Title: Re: Overtone special settings help
Post by: drew.12345 on May 07, 2012, 04:35:00 PM
Jazzacast55,
Did you assemble this amp or did you get it assembled and shipped from Nik?
Did it come with the ceriatone trannies or did you put your own in there?
Do you have a digital multi meter to measure your plate voltage and bias?
If your bias is set incorrectly it could be the reason the amp breaks up early.
Regards,
Drew


Title: Re: Overtone special settings help
Post by: 212Mavguy on May 07, 2012, 05:19:29 PM
Hi Guys,

I'm new to this forum and this is my first post.
I after some help with some settings on my overtone special, I can't have it very loud at home because I live in an apartment with neighbours but I use it for gigs and I never can quite get super clean as I mostly need it for the clean tone.
Could anyone help with suggesting setting to have it super clean and so I can get a bunch of volume out of it?
Thanks for the help in advance. :)

That amp is not as tolerant as my HRM for pick attack on the cleans at higher clean gain settings.  The bias thang is important.  the gain stting that works for your apartment will be too high for playing out.  Drop it a full number at gig volume and compensate with the master.  Since you are mainly playing clean, you can sub out a lower gain tube at V1.  Vintage moderately used GE 5751 or Sylvania 12at7/6201 tubes will allow higher gain knob settings for the same amount of gain and sound better tonewise for cleans than the stock JJ's there, while not as affordable as new production tubes, among vintage old stock they are excellent value starting point, more than worth the cost and effort of procurement of what needed plus spares/flavors in different VOS tube makers.

Ratio knob...go to Ceriatone.com and find the manual for your amp.  You will be glad you took the time to find it and read it!


Title: Re: Overtone special settings help
Post by: bigwebb83 on May 12, 2012, 04:18:15 AM
you mention the OD trim.  Why not just play the amp on the clean channel with no overdrive?  Am I missing something?


Title: Re: Overtone special settings help
Post by: plasticvonaband on May 23, 2012, 02:27:32 PM
you mention the OD trim.  Why not just play the amp on the clean channel with no overdrive?  Am I missing something?

Yeah, i was thinking the same thing. If i recall the standard OTS stays cleaner longer than the BMs when on the clean side, and mine stays clean pretty far up and less i whack it with boost