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Ceriatone => Overtone => Topic started by: Nigel T. on April 07, 2010, 07:48:22 AM



Title: Overdrive ... Or how do you use your Overtone?
Post by: Nigel T. on April 07, 2010, 07:48:22 AM
I am interested in how you achieve your overdrive sounds. Do you use the OD channel of the amp? Or do you use a pedal on the Clean channel? Boost on or off? Etc.

The reason is that I am indecisive about the overdrive on my HRM. At the moment I use the OD channel and a Keeley modded TS-808 as a boost for solos. But I actually like the sound of the TS-808 better as a default overdrive, instead of the OD channel.

So, whatch'all say?


Title: Re: Overdrive ... Or how do you use your Overtone?
Post by: Sander on April 07, 2010, 08:12:38 AM
I personally agree with you.

I rather use pedals then the amp it's overdrive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjaqRJMIfZs

Just sounds better to me. Maybe it's also because I'm not really (really not) going for the robben ford/larry carlton tone.

I don't have the pre amp boost on. Cause i guess more pre amp gain makes my amp more fizzy.


Title: Re: Overdrive ... Or how do you use your Overtone?
Post by: erwin_ve on April 07, 2010, 10:00:49 AM
I personally think it's a builders obligation to make a amp sound good, particular the overdrive on this amp. Originally this amp was called; overdrive special. Wonder why?
A HRM can sound very good with strat and doesn't have to be sounding like Carlton/Ford.

If in doubt you can come and hear my amps.


Title: Re: Overdrive ... Or how do you use your Overtone?
Post by: Nairbr on April 07, 2010, 11:38:14 AM
I recently bought a T-Rex Spin Doctor, I stood in a very long line at a Saturday Everything Must Go Sale and got it new at an insane price .

I still use the HRM lead channel for my solo's with both a Strat and LP and love the lead sound I get with this amp.

But the Spin Doctor into the front of the amp on the clean channel is mind blowing.
Best OD Pedal I have ever heard  ;D


Title: Re: Overdrive ... Or how do you use your Overtone?
Post by: mcinku on April 07, 2010, 12:23:48 PM
I started out with using OTS clean channel and my pedalboard... but when I tried to use OD from the amp, my delay and reverb pedal were not working... so I had to go with the loop solution... now with additional loop setup, it was just to much of everything... I wanted something simple, so I finally gave up the pedalboard and start using only the OD in the amp.
It took some time to get accustomed to new tone. I had to modify the amp a bit to suit my needs better but on the end I was more than happy. The dynamics you get from the amp is just not there with the pedals .. it takes more effort but the reward is there.
Now I'm using my OTS and BM HRM this way and I'm not looking back...I'm a believer.

On the other hand my friend doesn't want to touch the OD in his OTS... he adores the clean ch and his pedals and his tone is awesome.  ;D
 
This is my BM HRM rig
;)


Title: Re: Overdrive ... Or how do you use your Overtone?
Post by: hans on April 07, 2010, 03:14:02 PM
Wow,sander that sounds very thin,you are sure your amp is oke?


Title: Re: Overdrive ... Or how do you use your Overtone?
Post by: axiology on April 07, 2010, 05:15:46 PM
I can't imagine why anyone would specifically go for one of the Overtone models and not use the overdrive.....Real tube overdrive or solid state pedal overdrive, the choice seems obvious. This is where the amp is supposed to excel, is it not?

I'm just in the process of putting together my OTS, waiting for Mercury iron to show up. Currently using a modded Fender Hotrod Deluxe, that I'm very pleased with. The Fender also has tube OD and IMO has a real nice smooth singing OD tone with my LPS. I don't use pedals with the Fender, and with the exception of a reverb in the FX loop of the OTS, I plan on continuing my no pedal tradition. I'm curious to find out for myself if there's anything to this Dumble tone thing.

Is anyone using a Strymon Blue Sky Reverb, or any other reverb in the FX loop, without the  C-lator/Klienulator successfully(without it messing up the tone)? The Blue Sky's supposed to accept guitar or line level I/O, so shouldn't screw up the sound, I hope.

cheers
A.


Title: Re: Overdrive ... Or how do you use your Overtone?
Post by: bobgoblin on April 07, 2010, 05:20:50 PM
I've always only used the amp's OD with my OTS.  It took a little bit of fine tuning (layout, snubbers, cap values), but for rhythm and occasional leads, the OD alone is fine with me.  If I need a boost, I kick on the PAB.  For me, the trick is to set the clean gain up fairly high (5+) and make sure that the Fuchs Tube-FX-Loop is set to unity gain.


Title: Re: Overdrive ... Or how do you use your Overtone?
Post by: Sander on April 07, 2010, 06:05:30 PM
Wow,sander that sounds very thin,you are sure your amp is oke?

Hi Hans (from holland?)

What don't you specifically like about the sound?

erwin_ve; I would like to come over to hear your amp in the near future !


Title: Re: Overdrive ... Or how do you use your Overtone?
Post by: JD0x0 on April 07, 2010, 07:32:03 PM
i use mine with a dyna comp set for a boost(with the sensitivity at 9:00)

for a little more juice i layer on a HAO Rumble Mod which is a d*mble type pedal, huge sounding and very open OD

I almost always leave the MXR dynacomp on though


Title: Re: Overdrive ... Or how do you use your Overtone?
Post by: Nigel T. on April 08, 2010, 10:46:59 AM
OK... Let me try and explain some more. It is highly subjective as everything is with sound/timbre. To me the OD Channel is quite ragged/harsh, way too metal for my liking. For solos this is good as that extra saturation goes endless sustain, but just not for the main lead.

When I listen to Youtubes like MarinBlues I hear a very smooth overdrive, very unlike what I get out of it. When I have to play the louder variants of music (Hard Rock to (Death) Metal) I use a Randall MTS amp, and I bought the HRM especially for the "cleaner" stuff.

I don't use the PAB as I it circumvents the Tone section, for Boost I either use the Boost button on the TC Electronic Nova System (clean boost) or an overdrive pedal (overdriven boost).

My chain is as follows: guitar > Wah > Whammy > TS-808 > Ceriatone (> volume > Nova System<) > speaker