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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2009, 11:55:27 AM »
Quote from: Pickmaster on February 17, 2009, 10:49:01 PM
Very interesting thread indeed !
It will be very nice if you can properly record and post here your sound samples gentlemen. Than we can hear the magic of the “crappie” and mercury OT.
We all be very thankful – please!

Something similar http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?topic=971.0
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2009, 02:25:17 AM »
Quote from: René F on February 14, 2009, 01:27:27 PM
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Which specific Mercury Magnetics transformer have you used with the OTS (it's the 50 Watt edition right???)?

Thx in advance

René

My OTS is the 100 watt version with half power option.  I ordered th Tone Clone FTHPT-OMA output transformer.  It is the one that Paul Patronete, formery the VP of Groove Tubes, and celebrated tone guru, who is now a top rep. for Mercury Magnetics, recommended.  He was real cool on the phone, responded within a couple of hours to my email.  Go to mercurymagnetics.com and then click on "contact" and email him and tell him what you have and ask for a recommendation.  That is what I did, and I had my transformer 3 days later.  Good luck!
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« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2009, 11:16:40 PM »
I recently bought a Mercury Magnetics OT and choke.
Today I swapped the stock OT with the MM OT.
It's really tempting do do the OT and choke swap together :Smiley. But I'm determined in getting a good comparison picture.

Tomorrow I can get the amp at proper volume and this weekend gigging with it.
I'll post my findings here.
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« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2009, 06:55:48 AM »
Quote from: erwin_ve on February 26, 2009, 11:16:40 PM
I recently bought a Mercury Magnetics OT and choke.
Today I swapped the stock OT with the MM OT.
It's really tempting do do the OT and choke swap together :Smiley. But I'm determined in getting a good comparison picture.

Tomorrow I can get the amp at proper volume and this weekend gigging with it.
I'll post my findings here.

Can you do a little before/after clip?

To late for that probably.
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« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2009, 12:52:01 PM »
Thursday OT swap, friday testing, saturday gigging:

The OT swap makes a lot of difference; like there's a blanket removed. All the sales pitches like: note seperation, harmonic content. It's all true. It's also sitting better in the mix.

The difference isn't dramatic as posted in this topic: http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?topic=971.0 so my opinion is that the ceriatone OT for the OTS is a  decent one.

To be specific: The cleans are way better, more highs, more harmonics, tighter lows. The Od sound; tighter lows, more harmonics but also more hairy. The smooth thing has gone. So that means tweaking again :Smiley

This week I'm gonna swap the stock choke(1.5 H) by a MM choke (9H). Problably the solution for the hairy to smooth sound. On ampgarage there was a builder that did this specific thing to make it a smoother.

My opinion for now: The MM OT is better, the Ceriatone OT is OK.
But in my case I have to tweak and see what a choke swap will do to the OD sound.
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« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2009, 07:49:06 PM »
we need to het together soon
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« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2009, 09:35:41 PM »
Quote from: erwin_ve on March 01, 2009, 12:52:01 PM
Thursday OT swap, friday testing, saturday gigging:

 It's also sitting better in the mix.


Erwin,
Your experience with the MM OT is consistent with mine. But I have only had the opportunity to hear it in a quiet room at low to moderate volume.  Despite being impressed with the MM transformer, I have been hesitant to invest because I am not convinced that it the difference can be heard at gigging levels. Can you elaborate on "sitting better in the mix"? Perhaps give an example of a situation where the OTS did not perform to your expectations, but now it does with the MM OT.

Thanks
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« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2009, 09:14:09 AM »
Quote from: JohnE on March 01, 2009, 09:35:41 PM

Can you elaborate on "sitting better in the mix"? Perhaps give an example of a situation where the OTS did not perform to your expectations, but now it does with the MM OT.

Thanks
Hi John,

It's just if there fell a blanket off my speakercab with the MM OT. Hard to describe. Note separation, harmonics..., what you put in comes out very alive.   All of it can be heard real good in a band setting.
I bought the MM OT just to experiment and because they have(for most of there OT) a reputation to be top-of-the-line.
I like tweaking and building as a hobby and was planning to do a Trainwreck build. Unfortunatly I din't have the kudos to start that thing so I decided to experiment with the OT tranny. That's the story...
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« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2009, 01:49:58 PM »
where did you buy your MM OT ?
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« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2009, 03:14:10 PM »
Hi John,

It's just if there fell a blanket off my speakercab with the MM OT. Hard to describe. Note separation, harmonics..., what you put in comes out very alive.   All of it can be heard real good in a band setting.
I bought the MM OT just to experiment and because they have(for most of there OT) a reputation to be top-of-the-line.
I like tweaking and building as a hobby and was planning to do a Trainwreck build. Unfortunatly I din't have the kudos to start that thing so I decided to experiment with the OT tranny. That's the story...

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Thanks, Erwin. You are making it hard to resist. On the 17th I am going to check it out in person at gig where an MM OTS is being played. That will be the clincher I would imagine.

John
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« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2009, 04:25:23 PM »
How much do they cost? (yeah I'm Dutch)
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« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2009, 08:16:58 AM »
Quote from: Franne500 on March 02, 2009, 01:49:58 PM
where did you buy your MM OT ?
http://www.cmwamps.nl/
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« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2009, 08:19:31 AM »
Quote from: Steven_nl on March 02, 2009, 04:25:23 PM
How much do they cost? (yeah I'm Dutch)
The price on the Mercury magnetics website is in dollars; at cmw amps you can get the OT for the same price in euro's. That's cheaper then buying them directly from MM. edit: I picked it up directly from CMW amps, so no taxes, shipping costs etc.
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« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2009, 08:30:14 AM »
which one is it?
and what about the choke?
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« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2009, 09:20:53 AM »
Quote from: Steven_nl on March 03, 2009, 08:30:14 AM
which one is it?
and what about the choke?
It's a custom MM OT by specs of CMW amps. Fender style.
Choke: a 10H choke by MM. Code on the choke MC 10H.
I didn't install the choke yet...

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