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Title: OTS Parts received
Post by: djroge1 on May 20, 2009, 04:33:51 AM
I just received the OTS kit 2.

EDIT: If you happened to have read what I first posted please disregard.

So many parts... where to begin?

Thanks


Title: Re: OTS Parts received
Post by: mcinku on May 20, 2009, 08:59:59 AM
Some words of wisdom from Nik him self...  ;)

1) Mount all hardware first, except trannies
2) Then do heaters
3) Then work on the hardware - pots, switches etc. You will need to do up the jacks from outside of amp and then install perhaps
4) Put in the boards. You can do the small ones first, and wire it up perhaps. Dont put the PS and Main boards yet
5) Put in the OT and choke cause these sit under boards
6) wire it all up, boards included.
7) Put in the PT and do final wiring


Title: Re: OTS Parts received
Post by: erwin_ve on May 20, 2009, 09:53:44 AM
Some words of wisdom from Nik him self...  ;)

1) Mount all hardware first, except trannies
2) Then do heaters
3) Then work on the hardware - pots, switches etc. You will need to do up the jacks from outside of amp and then install perhaps
4) Put in the boards. You can do the small ones first, and wire it up perhaps. Dont put the PS and Main boards yet
5) Put in the OT and choke cause these sit under boards
6) wire it all up, boards included.
7) Put in the PT and do final wiring


Maybe it's wise to do the heater wiring in a later stage; when installing them in the beginneing it's difficult to get them floating above the tube sockets(like Fender and dumble did...)


Title: Re: OTS Parts received
Post by: hywelg on May 20, 2009, 10:25:08 AM
I did mine slightly differently. I installed the tranformers just before doing the heater wires. This raised it off the bench a little and made it easier to work on as it was very stable. Wired the PT first then the heaters, leaving the OT till very near the end.


Title: Re: OTS Parts received
Post by: mcinku on May 20, 2009, 10:27:32 AM
Maybe it's wise to do the heater wiring in a later stage; when installing them in the beginneing it's difficult to get them floating above the tube sockets(like Fender and dumble did...)

You right, it depends how you do it.
I'm just starting a bluesmaster HRM kit and I was thinking a while how am I going to do the heaters. At the end I decided to go with the "Marshall" way,... and I have three reasons...
1. If it's ugly you can't see it   ;D
2. The access to sockets it's much easier (for measuring, maintaining...)
3. I have it in my OTS (build by Nik) and that amp sounds good as hell  8) (even TWs has it done that way and we all know how TWs are touchy about the wiring)


Title: Re: OTS Parts received
Post by: erwin_ve on May 20, 2009, 10:34:27 AM
Mcinku; no3: you're right; but you have to make sure that nothing is within a inch distance of the heater wires(Like in TW's). It otherwise will destroy your sound.


Title: Re: OTS Parts received
Post by: mcinku on May 20, 2009, 11:51:47 AM
Mcinku; no3: you're right; but you have to make sure that nothing is within a inch distance of the heater wires(Like in TW's). It otherwise will destroy your sound.

I agree but I also think one inch is a little to much... at least I don't have that clearance in my OTS and it sounds good to me


Title: Re: OTS Parts received
Post by: djroge1 on May 20, 2009, 09:11:05 PM
Some words of wisdom from Nik him self...  ;)

1) Mount all hardware first, except trannies
2) Then do heaters
3) Then work on the hardware - pots, switches etc. You will need to do up the jacks from outside of amp and then install perhaps
4) Put in the boards. You can do the small ones first, and wire it up perhaps. Dont put the PS and Main boards yet
5) Put in the OT and choke cause these sit under boards
6) wire it all up, boards included.
7) Put in the PT and do final wiring


Thanks. Sounds simple enough I should have this done in a couple of hours.

I'm joking!! Really, thank you.


Title: Re: OTS Parts received
Post by: pine on May 21, 2009, 12:32:27 AM
You might want to take a look at how this guy wires his controls, it seems like it would be about 10X easier this way; he makes this jig out of wood by tracing the chassis front panel

http://www.soundgaragetales.com/amp-building/front-control-wiring-session (http://www.soundgaragetales.com/amp-building/front-control-wiring-session)


Title: Re: OTS Parts received
Post by: nickm57 on May 21, 2009, 11:02:10 AM
^
just place the pots switches upside down on the front of the chassis for this.


 


Title: Re: OTS Parts received
Post by: pine on May 21, 2009, 11:56:19 AM
^
just place the pots switches upside down on the front of the chassis for this.


 

That's even better, why didn't I think of that?


Title: Re: OTS Parts received
Post by: mcinku on May 22, 2009, 06:21:34 AM
I'm starting a thread about my BM HRM build...
...it might be helpful to check it out.

http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?topic=1160.0 (http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?topic=1160.0)