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« on: April 24, 2008, 07:07:05 AM »

Hi,

First, this is a great forum and I have learned a ton just malingering here. I am ready to pull the trigger on the OT after hearing some of the amazing tone from some of the folks on here. It seems a no brainer to me and that tone is what I have spent my life pretty much trying to find.

So, I am not an amp builder by any means and plan to just buy the wired up ready to go kit without a headbox. I am on a budget also, btw so for starters here is kind of the plan:

I don't gig out anymore and mostly just play for fun and do some recording. I am planning on just getting the head, no head cabinet would like to just do a combo but as time and money permits, if necessary I will build/acquire a proper speaker cabinet and put the head in a cab as well.

I have a musicman RD 50 with a tone tubby alnico in it that I do most of my daily driving in. I was thinking I could at least tweak and test using that speaker and see how I like it.

On the "tone on a budget" end, here is my idea, which you will probably find laughable. An old bandmate gave me his fender power chorus that I have been using with my keyboard. It's the most god awful sounding POS ever if a guitar gets near it. All mosfet guitar amp 2 12" combo (the one from the late 80's with the red knobs). It works pretty good for keys and it's stereo. It's a fairly standard twin combo cabinet and loaded with the fender "special design" 12's (which I think are eminence speaks, not sure).

I was thinking I could get a decent sounding rig just by using this cabinet and speakers and doing some minor cabinet mods to accomodate the smaller width of the OT and just pop her in there. Again, as needs/tones change I could play with different combo's of speakers. I am not tied to the fender speakers but they are kind of just sitting here waiting for something to happen.

Is this a completely stupid idea? I think it would work pretty well and honestly don't find the fender speakers to be that bad when run from another amp. Plus I can recycle and it will look mostly like a fender twin, and initial cost nothing more than cost of the head from ceriatone. 

I guess one other retard question is what's the impedance requirement on the OT? Both the fender horns are 8 ohm and if I recall right, that means I need to run 4 or 16 ohms from the amp depending how I wire them. I haven't messed with speaker cabinets in about 20+ years so bear with my hacking of ohm's law.
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2008, 09:07:37 AM »

Hey, it sounds like a good plan to me.  I never under-estimate the power of chance and possibility.  You may discover your golden grail tone. Go for it and keep us up to date on your progress.

 You are correct on the speaker impedance.  The Overtone has 4, 8, and 16 ohm secondaries so you are good to go.  I'd choose 16 ohm given the choice.  Series and parallel wiring diagrams are a quick google search away.  Do it and DIY with confidence.
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2008, 10:32:23 AM »

A little help from Celestion site...

Example:
2 X 4 Ohm Speaker = 8 Ohm Load
2 X 8 Ohm Speaker = 16 Ohm Load
2 X 16 Ohm Speaker = 32 Ohm Load

or

Example:
2 X 4 Ohm Speaker = 2 Ohm Load
2 X 8 Ohm Speaker = 4 Ohm Load
2 X 16 Ohm Speaker = 8 Ohm Load


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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2008, 02:25:54 PM »

A little help from Celestion site...

Example:
2 X 4 Ohm Speaker = 8 Ohm Load
2 X 8 Ohm Speaker = 16 Ohm Load
2 X 16 Ohm Speaker = 32 Ohm Load

or

Example:
2 X 4 Ohm Speaker = 2 Ohm Load
2 X 8 Ohm Speaker = 4 Ohm Load
2 X 16 Ohm Speaker = 8 Ohm Load


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Karma hog...lol.  Good of you to post the diagrams.
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2008, 06:52:36 PM »

Karma hog...lol.  Good of you to post the diagrams.

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I'm just want to help people.
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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2008, 09:30:06 PM »

Thanks for the feedbacks. I am going to go for it. Unfortunately, I need to create some  budget for the project so I will be selling some synth gear. Need to get congressional approval where the budget must remain neutral in order to pursue additional GAS. Or else the wife will get upset, you know.
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2008, 06:14:01 PM »

 Grin

Trust me, I know how it is.
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2008, 02:59:07 AM »

Thanks for the feedbacks. I am going to go for it. Unfortunately, I need to create some  budget for the project so I will be selling some synth gear. Need to get congressional approval where the budget must remain neutral in order to pursue additional GAS. Or else the wife will get upset, you know.

Ya, I can certainly relate, too.
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2008, 07:09:12 AM »

Waiting on Nik to tell me the price.

Roland V-Synth XT for sale to finance the amp. Don't know if this is legal on this forum, but if anyone knows any serious synthesizer sound designer tweekers, this is the ultimate tool and is what I am moving to make the budget. I have done some pretty interesting things with this through my guitar synth to say the least, but it's best a keyboard players toy.

If this is bad please just delete the post, if you know anyone please let them know. These are $2200 new at the online stores fully discounted. I am selling for 1299 BIN and reserve is 975. Free ships CONUS in the highly unlikely event someone here grabs it. Smiley

I want to take this amp apart now and get it ready. Must.....wait......mussst. .....waitttttt..........arghhh

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180237802223
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