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Ceriatone => Overtone => Topic started by: Helmut on January 31, 2009, 04:45:19 PM



Title: New user from germany
Post by: Helmut on January 31, 2009, 04:45:19 PM
Hello
i`m Helmut from Germany, new user of the Overtone.

See my Homepage - www.prbluesband.com and www.pixelbugs.de

Thanks

Helmut


Title: Re: New user from germany
Post by: Thilo278 on January 31, 2009, 11:12:24 PM
Welcome  ;)

Looks really nice! Would be cool to hear what you think of the Overtone compared to the Fuchs.

BTW: Ich stamme auch aus dem schönen Deutschland  ;D


Title: i say it in german, please translate
Post by: Helmut on February 05, 2009, 07:03:46 PM
hallo mein english ist echt schlecht.
also overtone - fuchs

würde sagen so 2:0 ;-)
der fuchs ist edeler, transparenter, sauberer im tone. Mehr fender im sound.
der ceriatone ist dreckiger, rauher, naja und leider keinen hall oder gar aktiven effektweg.
der fuchs hat hall - und der effektweg ist grossartig.

aber dennoch spiele ich ja beide amps - haben beide ihre berechtigung - und nebenbei auf der homepage www.prbluesband.com - da das youtube video - das sind die koch studiotone combos - auch echt nicht schlecht der sound.

gruss helmut


Title: Re: New user from germany
Post by: Thilo278 on February 05, 2009, 08:57:39 PM
Hör ich da jetzt richtig raus, dass der Fuchs den OTS um Längen schlägt? ;)


Title: Re: New user from germany
Post by: casken on February 06, 2009, 03:53:47 AM
Can anyone translate in to English...I'd love to know what he said in comparing the Fuch's and Ceriatone


Title: Re: i say it in german, please translate
Post by: erwin_ve on February 06, 2009, 08:07:29 AM
Something like this...I think the fx-loop has a lot to do with it.


 overtone vs. fuchs

 2:0 would say so ;-)
the fuchs is noble, transparent, cleaner in tone. More the fender sound.
ceriatone is the dirty, rough, well, and unfortunately no Reverb or even active effects loop.
fuchs has the reverb - and the active effects loop is great.

but yes, I play both amps - both have their eligibility - and incidentally on the homepage www.prbluesband.com - as the youtube video - there is the koch studiotone combo amp - also not really bad  sounding.

gruss helmut


Title: Re: New user from germany
Post by: Thilo278 on February 06, 2009, 08:50:21 AM
Yup, that's exactly what he said :)


Title: Re: New user from germany
Post by: Steven_nl on February 06, 2009, 01:27:52 PM
yeah but based on the discription I'd say the Fuchs won by 2-0


Title: Re: New user from germany
Post by: Thilo278 on February 06, 2009, 02:19:02 PM
that's what i think, too.... a bit confusing.


Title: Re: New user from germany
Post by: Helmut on February 06, 2009, 02:58:07 PM
hello


yes you right

fuchs : overtone 2 : 0

winner is the fuchs , but the overtone is nice - too

sorry for my english

helmut


Title: Re: New user from germany
Post by: casken on February 06, 2009, 06:39:28 PM
thanks for the translation ...to my ears (and I don't own a Fuch's and only have heard them on line) the OTS is a little raspier and not quite as refined.  Personally from my quite limited perspective I like the OTS by comparison of the net stuff.  I own an OTS and love it.  I imagine it is a matter of personal likes and dislikes.  If I could afford a Fuch's I would probably have one of those too!


Title: Re: New user from germany
Post by: Pickmaster on February 06, 2009, 08:30:56 PM
Well, we discussed this here and on the gear page long time ago >:(. If you want DUMBLE then Overtone gets you there, not Fuchs which is lovely amp but as you’ve mentioned more fenderish, cleaner and polite.
And then there is My moded Ceriatone OTS which will kick any stock Fuchs’s ass, but not Scott Lerner’s moded Fuchs’s because he worked on his.
Moral of the story is! and I’ve mentioned this several times (unfortunately very few listens) IF YOU WANT PERFECT AMP and GREAT TONE – you have to WORK ON YOUR AMP!!!
Even Robben Ford does!!! Brings his amp to Alexander Dumble for tweaking once or twice every year. 
And finally as we all know – tone is mainly in the hands of the player and good amp just helps to reveal it. :P


Title: Re: New user from germany
Post by: JUN42 on February 06, 2009, 11:09:07 PM
Well, we discussed this here and on the gear page long time ago >:(. If you want DUMBLE then Overtone gets you there, not Fuchs which is lovely amp but as you’ve mentioned more fenderish, cleaner and polite.
And then there is My moded Ceriatone OTS which will kick any stock Fuchs’s ass, but not Scott Lerner’s moded Fuchs’s because he worked on his.
Moral of the story is! and I’ve mentioned this several times (unfortunately very few listens) IF YOU WANT PERFECT AMP and GREAT TONE – you have to WORK ON YOUR AMP!!!
Even Robben Ford does!!! Brings his amp to Alexander Dumble for tweaking once or twice every year. 
And finally as we all know – tone is mainly in the hands of the player and good amp just helps to reveal it. :P


+1


Title: Re: New user from germany
Post by: erwin_ve on February 07, 2009, 10:28:29 AM
I certainly agree that the Fuchs is sweeter based on several soundclips I heared.
The FX-loop also has a lot to do with it.
Since I build my Dumblelator and used it with the OTS the overall sound is much more pleasing and less raw.