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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2011, 07:57:05 AM »

Yeah I think my OTS (customised by Erwin) has "moods". One moment is has all the nice high frequencies the other they seem to have disapeared. I always blame myself and think I'm "hearing things". Good to know other have the same feeling.

I wonder if a Variac would help in Holland. We have 220 volts 50Hz. The networks is in good shape and I live in a new house.
I have done gigs where even the light bulbs seem to have a life of their own ;-)
Variac is not that expensive. maybe I should try it.
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2011, 05:23:35 PM »

I'm rather convinced that it is my interpretation of sounds that varies.  With the amp in the same room and with the same guitar, settings, etc. some times the tone is very pleasing and other times I'm making adjustments.  I think it's similar to how our tastes for the same foods can vary. 

I am a medical doctor and had to learn in much detail about our mechanisms for hearing and the neurotransmitters involved.  When you hear a pleasing sound from your guitar and amp it gives you energy because certain neurotransmitters are released (in particular - dopamine).  How many times have you played late into the night and are not tired?  This is similar to the good feelings that long distance runners get with production of enkaphalins and endorphins.  When dopamine and other neurotransmitters are released our bodies need some time to replenish or recycle them.  This is the primary variation that affects how pleasing our setup sounds at the time. 

Incidently, the street drugs that are addictive involve these same neurotransmitters.  After taking methamphetamines, for example, one's dopamines supplies are depleted in about a day or so.  Then this person feels terrible and can only think how much better it would feel to be on the drug again.  I play guitar, listen to music, and exercise because I enjoy it and I feel good in a healthy way. 
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« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2011, 08:05:54 AM »

Psycho acoustics are involved but also wall voltages!
Since the powertransformer is basically a step up transformer(voltage wise) lower or higher wall voltages can make the voltage onthe v1 preamp tube go 20 volts higher or lower.
This is very noticable. Lower voltages wil give a more dark and compressed sound. High voltages will give a stiff and brighter sound.
Fe. here in the EU wall voltages can go in one day from 220v to 240 v. The B+ can be  420v@220v wall voltage.
The B+ can be 460v@240 wall voltage.
No mumbo jumbo but measurable and very noticable soundwise!
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« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2011, 09:04:56 AM »

Wall voltages are important. I always wanted to try Furman power regulator/conditioner but never had a chance. It is very expensive and I don’t want to spend 1000 pounds on it before trying it properly.
Is anyone using it? Your thoughts please.
Only variac won’t work because it will change voltage up or down depending on wall voltage change. 
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« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2011, 09:07:50 AM »

I'm wondering if that's why I like mine better in Sag mode. It drops my B+ down to around 430, which should darken it, but since I'm running the 6L6WGB's, everything is a little brighter and the mids are more pronounced and the bass is tightened up, so the perception is it is brighter, especially on breakup. Hmm
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« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2011, 09:38:30 AM »

Only variac won’t work because it will change voltage up or down depending on wall voltage change. 


I got the impression from Boldaslove's comment it does work?
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« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2011, 11:26:40 AM »

Only variac won’t work because it will change voltage up or down depending on wall voltage change. 


I got the impression from Boldaslove's comment it does work?
It only works if you measure the voltage of the variac and set it for the right voltage; During a show you can ask your roadie to monitor this voltage and correct it if necessary. Grin
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« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2011, 11:36:39 AM »

Very true. In *most* cases it would need to be adjusted up at most venues due to the load of all the equipment at the venue
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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2011, 01:24:58 PM »

I've had great success getting a killer strat sound on my OTS however...it does require me to change many of my normal HB settings. The first thing I do is boost the input gain.

I swapped the normal input pot for a push/pull bright switch. Also added a 3 position toggle for the bright switch. It allows me to completely remove the bright cap from the circuit or add two different cap values. This along with the push/pull gives me a bunch of different variables by combining the settings to tame or accentuate the brightness which really helped in quickly switching between my strats/teles and HB equipped guitars. Kind of difficult to do live of course but I've got it down to a science....LOL.
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« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2011, 03:17:06 PM »

I bough this cheap power conditioner, it's working fine and good thing about it is, that it has this voltmeter on it...



...the idea was, that with volmeter I can at least follow the correlation between the wall voltage and tone I have.

...but the jury is still out on that one... I think that ear fatigue or even the way I feel at times, has more to do with that.
...but what do I know.
 Huh?
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« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2011, 09:14:28 PM »

That's the type I'm looking at getting. I had one back when I had some rack gear back in the day. They seem to work
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« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2011, 02:04:01 PM »

I bough this cheap power conditioner, it's working fine and good thing about it is, that it has this voltmeter on it...


...the idea was, that with volmeter I can at least follow the correlation between the wall voltage and tone I have.

...but the jury is still out on that one... I think that ear fatigue or even the way I feel at times, has more to do with that.
...but what do I know.
 Huh?


Does this thing keep the voltage level at 220? or does it only show the voltage?

I saw there's a Phonic 9000E. Is that the same?



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« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2011, 06:14:40 AM »

This one only shows the voltage and current consumption...
... I guess Phonic is something similar.

I can say that Samson is a good piece of HW... I opened it up and it's not a toy. It has some serious iron in there and it looks really sturdy.
I don't know anything about Phonic...
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« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2011, 09:41:17 AM »

This one only shows the voltage and current consumption...
... I guess Phonic is something similar.

I can say that Samson is a good piece of HW... I opened it up and it's not a toy. It has some serious iron in there and it looks really sturdy.
I don't know anything about Phonic...

Sorry for my ignorance but I thought the whole point was to even out the voltage and making sure it always is 220V?
I sometimes feel voltage drops changes the sound. But I must confess this is based on knowledge just on gut feeling.
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« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2011, 10:46:14 AM »

Sorry for my ignorance but I thought the whole point was to even out the voltage and making sure it always is 220V?
I sometimes feel voltage drops changes the sound. But I must confess this is based on knowledge just on gut feeling.

You are right but a device which keeps the voltage at 220V is not cheap... that's why I decided that at least I should have a voltmeter. This way I can at least see what's going on with the wall voltage.
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