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« on: November 10, 2008, 05:50:22 AM »
A long time ago someone asked about using 5881's in the OTS. Well, I have a set of Sovtek 5881's matched and biased at .33mV and I am nailing Larry's tone all day long! Mr. 335 himself uses Sovtek 5881's in his Dumble ODS 100's. He has #118 and #147.
   Now, if only I could play like him... 
   The 5881 has a "splatty" attack when overdriven and a bit less gain overall. You can get very big grind with them though, just turn the OD level up to 7 or 8...maybe even higher and  hit the PAB! Leads will scream and chords... yes, chords will crunch and still be well defined and articulate.  I love this amp!!!!     Bill Grin Shocked Cheesy

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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2008, 10:23:42 AM »
hi

define splatty please :-)

I ask because I'd love my OTS to have a little less punch (I find the the typical in your face Twin sound a bit harsh).

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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2008, 10:58:45 PM »
Funnily enough I've just bought some NOS USA Tung-Sol 5881's & intend to give them a whirl asap- will report back as soon as the wife pops out shopping again so I can raise the OTS above 'whisper'  Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2008, 05:41:36 AM »
The attack has a definite "splat" kind of reminds me of stepping in a water puddle. This is followed by the singing sustain. The6L6 has what I call more of a "pop" attack. Listen to some Larry Carlton and I think you'll hear what I mean.  Does this sound crazy?   Bill
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2008, 08:21:49 AM »
No it doesn't sound strange, although I don't quite inderstand yet ;-)
might be what I'm looking for
I don't care much for the popping attack
what kind of pre amp tubes are you using?
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2008, 05:47:30 AM »
Fender 7025's and a JJ 12AX7 for the PI.
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2008, 02:12:40 AM »
Bill, it sounds like you're really enjoying your amp! 

I recently got my OTS set up (with Klein-ulator) and getting the tones I like (lately my head has been into Larry and Robben tones.  I'm running NOS US-made Philips 6L6WGBs (basically 5881s), and I agree that they seem more "toneful" than the bigger 6L6GCs.  Maybe not quite as powerful attack on notes (?) but seem "fatter"(?)  More "liquid"(?).  More "bloom"(?).  Maybe that's the same as "splatty", I don't know...hard to describe how musical sounds feel with words.  To quote Sheryl Crow, "if it makes you feel good, it can't be that bad".   Grin

For preamp I'm using a '60s Mullard for V1, NOS Telefunkens for the other two tubes.  The amp really seems to like all kinds of guitars...so far tried with ES-339, Les Paul, Suhr Strat (sounds somewhat like Larry's Valley Arts), and a St.Blues Mississippi Bluesmaster with Burstbucker 5s (sounds better than I thought it would).
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2008, 06:33:03 AM »
Steve, I'm going to do one mod to this, otherwise, perfect amp. I'm removing the FET and putting in a deep switch. Looks like a fairly simple mod. Looks like I'll be a bit closer to Larry tone. Look at the layout for the HRM on the Ceriatone site and look at how the switching is wired. To add the "deep" all I have to do is follow the layout to wire the switch and put it in the FET hole. I never use that input anyway. And yes, I'm in love with the amp! Bill
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