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Ceriatone => Overtone => Topic started by: Dumbleseeker on April 06, 2008, 05:11:26 PM



Title: Is there reverb on the Overtone? If not what do you suggest?
Post by: Dumbleseeker on April 06, 2008, 05:11:26 PM
What do you use for Reverb?


Title: Re: Is there reverb on the Overtone? If not what do you suggest?
Post by: gbergl on April 06, 2008, 06:30:09 PM
There is no reverb on the Overtone.  I use a TC Electronic G Major in the effects loop for reverb and delay.  I'm happy with this - it seems transparent and has a true bypass.


Title: Re: Is there reverb on the Overtone? If not what do you suggest?
Post by: mcinku on April 06, 2008, 06:36:54 PM
RV-5 in my case  ::)



It's not that bad, but definitely not the best out there.


Title: Re: Is there reverb on the Overtone? If not what do you suggest?
Post by: Dumbleseeker on April 06, 2008, 07:29:15 PM
Thanks for the help! I ordered my Overtone a few days ago and counting down till it's here. Nike said there was a 9 week wait.  I have read some good reviews on the jackson Mr. Springgy reverb.


Title: Re: Is there reverb on the Overtone? If not what do you suggest?
Post by: jake on April 06, 2008, 07:33:59 PM
I had and sold a Mr Springgy. For me, it didn't work thay well in the Overtone loop. I tried it in front of a Fender and it sounded great. So, I'd say it belongs in front of an amp not in a loop. I plan to get a Nova Delay to use in the loop. A little delay works better for me than a little reverb anyway. Just my preference.


Title: Re: Is there reverb on the Overtone? If not what do you suggest?
Post by: rahimiiii on April 07, 2008, 12:40:49 AM
I am working on something which I will add to my plexi 50 clone. This should also work in an overtone as well. If you haven't ordered anything ask Nik to punch a few extra holes in the chassis for preamp tube, this uses one 12AT7 and a reverb tranny (which nik has) and a *AB***** reverb tank.

Also see if you can get Nik to punch a few extra holes in the front for pots... In fact if I ever get the overtone I will ask for an oversized chassis (like the ones used on the Plexi 100 superlead) with a few extra holes.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m320/rahimiiii/RJ_Audio_Add_On_Reverb_V2.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m320/rahimiiii/412%20homemade%20cab/IMG_0056.jpg)

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m320/rahimiiii/412%20homemade%20cab/IMG_0057.jpg)

I used the switch box because I could not find any space inside my plexi 50 chassis and I couldnt find space for an extra tube too, this assembly will be bolted right on top of the main chassis... I am also "disabling" the presence control (it does nothing on my amp) by removing the pot from the chassis and securing it elsewhere... like the back.


Title: Re: Is there reverb on the Overtone? If not what do you suggest?
Post by: Steven_nl on April 07, 2008, 04:56:05 PM
wouldn't it be fairly simple to add a spring reverb?


Title: Re: Is there reverb on the Overtone? If not what do you suggest?
Post by: nella on April 07, 2008, 08:51:48 PM
wouldn't it be fairly simple to add a spring reverb?
A spring reverb requires a reverb transformer and a tube, usually a 12at7, and additional resistors and capacitors.  See rahimiiii's post in this thread - that is a spring reverb he's talking about.


Title: Re: Is there reverb on the Overtone? If not what do you suggest?
Post by: rahimiiii on April 08, 2008, 12:27:46 AM
You do not have to necessarily use a tube... solid state counterparts could be used but make sure the impedance matches. Not all circuit requires a reverb transformer but the Fender style ones seems to be the most straightfoward and reverb transformer is cheap and Nik sells them. Like I said I could install this inside the chassis but I'd have to do some major overhaul to make space as well as punch holes for an extra tube...


Title: Re: Is there reverb on the Overtone? If not what do you suggest?
Post by: jzucker on April 15, 2008, 02:32:24 AM
i use a lee jackson mr springy but any pedal you use will need a dumbleator of some type. I may be getting a t-rex reverb pedal to try. I really like the lee jackson though. It's the best I've heard in a pedal and sounds good for clean or high gain. It's so good, I turn the reverb off in my vintage style BF amps.


Title: Re: Is there reverb on the Overtone? If not what do you suggest?
Post by: YOGA64 on April 15, 2008, 08:38:55 PM
i use a lee jackson mr springy but any pedal you use will need a dumbleator of some type. I may be getting a t-rex reverb pedal to try. I really like the lee jackson though. It's the best I've heard in a pedal and sounds good for clean or high gain. It's so good, I turn the reverb off in my vintage style BF amps.

I couldn't agree more, I'm using that same pedal and am totally happy with the sound, seems to be working fine by itself in the effects loop as well, without  help from any Dumbleator like item.  :)


Title: Re: Is there reverb on the Overtone? If not what do you suggest?
Post by: Steven_nl on April 15, 2008, 08:55:24 PM
hmm the experts agree on the quality of the Springy but seem to disagree a bit on it working well in the FX loop.
I'm curious about this. I do love the simplicity and vintage sound of the pedal!


Title: Re: Is there reverb on the Overtone? If not what do you suggest?
Post by: jzucker on April 15, 2008, 08:58:26 PM
hmm the experts agree on the quality of the Springy but seem to disagree a bit on it working well in the FX loop.
I'm curious about this. I do love the simplicity and vintage sound of the pedal!

You will lose some gain and a bit of tone using the springy in the effect loop but you can still get some great sounds with it. For most playing, you can compensate with the tone controls of the amp but the dumbleator will make it sound even better. I have a klein-ulator coming later in the week.

I think Nik is going to offer a dumbleator in a couple months. It'd be cool if he made a klein-ulator available as well...


Title: Re: Is there reverb on the Overtone? If not what do you suggest?
Post by: jzucker on April 16, 2008, 02:47:38 PM
By the way, the digitech digiverb and Goudie Delay work pretty well in the effect loop. You lose a little gain but I'm pretty happy with the results. here's a clip: http://www.sheetsofsound.net/demos/ceriatone8.mp3

I think it'll be better with my klein-ulator though...


Title: Re: Is there reverb on the Overtone? If not what do you suggest?
Post by: marinblues on April 18, 2008, 04:10:15 PM
There is no reverb on the Overtone.  I use a TC Electronic G Major in the effects loop for reverb and delay.  I'm happy with this - it seems transparent and has a true bypass.

thats interesting. I was looking at the G-major as all-in-one unit.

Do you have a volume drop when you insert it in the loop?

If yes, can you offset the volume drop with an output control of the G-major?

thanks

Marin


Title: Re: Is there reverb on the Overtone? If not what do you suggest?
Post by: jzucker on April 18, 2008, 04:55:36 PM
i've experimented with a digitech digiverb in the loop followed by an eventide timefactor. I leave the input of the timefactor on guitar but switch the output to line level and it seems to recover the volume loss and the amp sounds great like that. My klein-ulator should be arriving today or monday.


Title: Re: Is there reverb on the Overtone? If not what do you suggest?
Post by: JD0x0 on May 16, 2008, 04:16:22 PM
i dont use reverb but i use a tech 21 analog delay and its awsome it sounds like a vintage tape echoe, you could actually set it so it does reverb