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Ceriatone => Overtone => Topic started by: hywelg on February 18, 2013, 09:39:48 PM



Title: Incoming voltage
Post by: hywelg on February 18, 2013, 09:39:48 PM
Conclusive proof this evening that only a couple of volts drift affect the amp tone.

We started our rehearsal with 242.5 volts (UK) and it sounded great, then after a while between numbers I was just playing about, clean, and thought it had lost its edge checked my guitar to see if I had nudged the tone pot, but no, checked the plug in voltmeter and lo the voltage had dropped to 240.2

Then later it was down to 238.7, what a difference!!!  lifeless and dull. Now I need to see how the bias drifts over than range. So I will take my DMM with me as well next time. Or maybe theres more to it than that?


Title: Re: Incoming voltage
Post by: mcinku on February 19, 2013, 09:17:03 PM
If you have access to variac,.... that's best way to check things and confirm your assumption.
 ;)


Title: Re: Incoming voltage
Post by: plasticvonaband on February 19, 2013, 09:44:54 PM
It definetly makes a difference. At peak consumption time around here, my incoming voltage drops to around 118-119 Amp sounds kinda dull. When it's back up to 120-121, the amp sounds much more lively.

I think is has more to do with the preamp than the output side. That's why I think if one wants to put VVR in of these, it should be output side only.

Gregg


Title: Re: Incoming voltage
Post by: Pickmaster on February 22, 2013, 01:27:43 PM
That’s why all my amps have a 230v power transformers which gives me little bit more volts (in UK) and better tone. Believe me some extra volts won’t blow a trany,  especially when they are fan cooled.

Yes, it’s a good idea to get a power conditioner/regulator as well.

Cheers


Title: Re: Incoming voltage
Post by: captainbackfire on February 22, 2013, 03:55:54 PM
Would this mean that using an OTS with a 240v PT in a 220v contry isn't ideal? As in it would have a tendency to sound dull or lifeless?

Nik once emailed me about this concern. He said it doesn't matter and my country also peaks at 240v+ anyway.

Thanks for these new findings, definitely worth investigating. I did notice some amp "moods"

Nick


Title: Re: Incoming voltage
Post by: hywelg on February 22, 2013, 07:48:10 PM
My OTS has both 220 and 240v taps so you could swap. No 230v though.

Regulator is out for the reason of expense. I am considering building a Variac into a rack box with digital input and output voltage readouts. Does anyone know what sort of rating variac I would need? I reckon 3A should be enough surely?


Title: Re: Incoming voltage
Post by: mcinku on February 22, 2013, 08:46:22 PM
I reckon 3A should be enough surely?


more than enough