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Title: HRM Bluesmaster 100W + C-lator question
Post by: MrBluesStrat on September 13, 2011, 04:52:58 PM
Hello everybody!

 I ordered about a week ago the Bluesmaster 100W Head from Nik.

 It would be advisable to buy even the C-lator (or Kleinulator)?
 Sounds the BM with the c-lator really better (also in the clean channel)?
 What are the differences in sound?

 Many thanks in advance for all your help!

PS: I will mainly only use the clean channel (clean sound) and turn analog overdrive pedals in front.


Title: Re: HRM Bluesmaster 100W + C-lator question
Post by: Thilo278 on September 13, 2011, 09:16:54 PM
Yup, it's better to have a Klein- or C-lator with D-style amps. If you use effects in the loop like reverb or delay it's a must with most units.
I don't think the sound difference is THAT big with the c-lator (this is what I use). You can search for a thread I made where I recorded the difference with and without the C-lator.
Also the bright switches are very cool :)

My advice: If you use effects in the loop, get one. If not, it's a cool extra feature but not really necessary.

For me, the C-lator took my Lexicon LXP-1 to a whole new level :)


Title: Re: HRM Bluesmaster 100W + C-lator question
Post by: hurtwoodec on September 14, 2011, 04:12:19 AM
I was looking at one or the Plush pedal unit to give me a buffered loop. Im only running reverb in there, am I loosing thatmuch tone?


Title: Re: HRM Bluesmaster 100W + C-lator question
Post by: Thilo278 on September 14, 2011, 07:40:41 AM
IMO it's not about toneloss in the first place. I had clipping problems without the C-lator.


Title: Re: HRM Bluesmaster 100W + C-lator question
Post by: plasticvonaband on September 14, 2011, 08:41:16 AM
IMO it's not about toneloss in the first place. I had clipping problems without the C-lator.

exactly. Thilo's post showed not much in the way of tonal change.

The c-lator and other buffers main purpose is more about matching the impedance and line levels between the loop and the effect more than anything. with the c-lator, it just so happens that to some people's ears (mine incuded) it warms the tone up a bit and ad a bit of complexity to it. This could be just a perception thing, though. I think this has more to do with being able to turn the master volume(s) up on the amp itself and use the c-lator as an overall master more than anything, but the buffering could have a smoothing effect as well.