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« on: June 22, 2008, 08:59:20 AM »

Okay, so I know this has been a little bit if a otuchy subject in previous threads, but it's something I really want to know the answer to.

The versatility of the OTS is not in question, it does some exceptional Dumble tones (as you would expect), but I've been told by a few sources that it can also do Fender Blackface and Tweed tones, but I have yet to hear any samples that really show this off. (As an aside, someone on here also suggested that it can get close to Marshall tones, but I'm sceptical about that).

I'm hoping that someone would be kind enough to show off this side of the OTS. Not because it will make me decide whether or not to buy an OTS, I've already decided that, but rather help me decide what other amp I intend to buy to compliment the OTS. I want to be able to get Blackface type Fender sounds from my setup, but if the OTS can get close then I won't see the need to buy one and will go for a Marshall amp. However if the OTS can't get close to Blackface fender tones, then I'll choose a Fender as my 2nd amp...

Thanks for your help...
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2008, 09:05:21 AM »

HAHA dont go there mate, take it from me
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2008, 02:59:52 PM »

Man, if you already decided to get this amp than wait up until you do and then decide about your next amp.
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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2008, 10:28:41 PM »

then  can someone give the proper answer to it then instead of saying "wait until you get the amp" because i certainly won't be getting the amp unless i get that information straight to the point.
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2008, 10:40:07 PM »

If you want Fender get a Fender. The overtone has nice cleans but more mids and lows than a Fender. Definitely more sustain than any Fender I've played. If you really want Fender the overtone is not for you.

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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2008, 11:56:38 PM »

I'll let you know in a couple of weeks. Got my overtone arriving soon. (It just arrived !) in bits package 2.

I have a BF Vibrolux 2x10 and an old AC-30 to compare.

I'm hoping that it will be able to cover the bases of these amps clean sound. Not clone them but have a clean sound that is usable but different. Its clean sound is of primary importance to me.

Speakers will make a huge difference, A celestion v's a jensen will change your sound and 10" v's 12" will too.

Early Marshalls are a bassman style circuit. The speakers and cab used has allot to do with the character of these amps. I shopped around for AC-30s years ago I found that the Blue/sliver speakers in the old amps gave the vox sound. The re-issues with greenbacks at the time didn't sound right.

I think find where the Overtone sits sound wise first. Play it, gig with it, find a speaker you like with it. Then find a amp that will fill the hole. Could be even be something like an AC-15, Matchless, or  trainwreck.

Last note on the Fender sound. A tweed deluxe is a completely different sound to a twinreverb and the new "hotrod" Blues Jr style amps are a different thing again.
You can't compare apples and oranges. From my understanding you can't even compare 2 *umbles.

What would be nice, is to get an insight into is how these  *umble style amps are changed to suit different players.
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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2008, 12:25:41 AM »

Not much to say other than I use the Overtone for dirt and a 73 SF Super Reverb for cleans.  However, if I could switch channels in the Overtone (on the fly) without adjusting the tonestack I would be using the one amp. 
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2008, 02:19:17 AM »

OK just for the record...

I played my Overtone next to SF Twin Reverb, next to DRRI and my moded 5E3.

I always wanted a Twin but 'cause it's such a heavy animal I always decided against it. Once I heard my Overtone next to that Twin my Twin GAS stoped right there. Does it sound just like Twin, no it doesn't but it's close enough if you ask me.
Regarding Tweed Deluxe sound the story is similar. With the deep switch on and some tone stack tweaking you can get close. Just for the record, I'm using a Greenback with my 5E3 and a G12-65 with my Overtone. The difference is still there, 5E3 is much more focused and a mid hump is a little different but hey, sound is in the fingers isn't it.

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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2008, 02:29:21 AM »

OK just for the record...

I played my Overtone next to SF Twin Reverb, next to DRRI and my moded 5E3.

I always wanted a Twin but 'cause it's such a heavy animal I always decided against it. Once I heard my Overtone next to that Twin my Twin GAS stoped right there. Does it sound just like Twin, no it doesn't but it's close enough if you ask me.
Regarding Tweed Deluxe sound the story is similar. With the deep switch on and some tone stack tweaking you can get close. Just for the record, I'm using a Greenback with my 5E3 and a G12-65 with my Overtone. The difference is still there, 5E3 is much more focused and a mid hump is a little different but hey, sound is in the fingers isn't it.

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that's just great to hear. weeeeee i'm soo looking forward to saving up money for that.
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2008, 04:43:51 AM »

Heres a question:

how does the OTS go when you dial in a nice clean tone and put a pedal like a tubescreamer or something to that effect in front of it? has anyone here done this? how does it sound?

i say this because i think you would get a completely different overdriven sound to the one produed on the OD channel, but im curious as to what it would be like...
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2008, 05:13:19 AM »

Heres a question:

how does the OTS go when you dial in a nice clean tone and put a pedal like a tubescreamer or something to that effect in front of it? has anyone here done this? how does it sound?

i say this because i think you would get a completely different overdriven sound to the one produed on the OD channel, but im curious as to what it would be like...

I'm using Xotic RC & BB and TS-9 with it and it works just fine. OTS takes pedals very well.
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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2008, 05:41:04 AM »

Cool thanks man, i thought it might

how would you describe the sort of sounds it throws out?? in the theme of this thread, would you be confident in being able to dial this sort of stuff in whilst using the clean channel through one of those pedals?



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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2008, 06:48:12 AM »

Cool thanks man, i thought it might

how would you describe the sort of sounds it throws out?? in the theme of this thread, would you be confident in being able to dial this sort of stuff in whilst using the clean channel through one of those pedals?




OK I'm going to make a bold statement here, 'cause I don't know what amp this guy used...
Regarding gain structure I see no problem, I guess a good old TS9 will do just fine but the sound from OTS would probably be more mellower. This amp sound very bright to me, almost harsh at times (but that's probably youtube sound quality). OTS is not like that, it's much smother IMHO.

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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2008, 07:18:20 AM »

that makes sense the OTS is probably known for smoothing out....

as far as im aware the amp in that clip is a deville 4x10, so a loud tweed fender, which is where that harshness comes from, the "twangy" clean that the amp would produce without the pedal is just amplified, to create that harshness...
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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2008, 01:25:09 PM »

Hey where's marin on this thread? Smiley

I just finished an amp building three day course and now I have decided to build my overtone when I have the money to get the kit,  a challenge that will keep me out of trouble!
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