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« on: October 07, 2010, 10:45:44 PM »

Hi there, I have a 50w OTS standard with two cabs: a 2x12 VibroKing cab with Vintage 30´s for big gigs and one 1x12" with Celestion G12-65 for smaller. My other rig is a pedalboard with Lovepedal Les Lius, Timmy, BJ Honey Bee and a Fender Vibro King. With my Ceriatone OTS I am seeking more of the "Robben" tone and I find that my pedals doesn´t add so much - if I for instance need a push or boost in the lead channel, I think pedals make a little difference. Well, maybe it´s my settings, I don´t know.
 
I try to find settings on the OTS so that I can use clean and dirty channels and the PAB for more cutting-leads. Right now I believe my magic is in the very first volume knob - I have it to 7 to make the clean channel crunch a bit, and I think it sounds quite good cause the first volume/gain really affects the whole amp. Live
with the OTS, my only setup on the floor is footswitch, tuner and wah. I have the Hermida Reverb in the loop - that´s it!



But how about you? How do you use it, do you use pedals with your amp, and how?


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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2010, 11:50:19 PM »

Very similar to you, I only need a wah & the OTS footswitch live (although I do also have a MIDI foot controller for the rack mounted Intellifex).  Otherwise, 50w OTS, 2x12" cab, C-lator/Intellifex in the loop.  First volume is set between 5 and 7 as well.
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2010, 02:10:38 PM »

I use mine for a range of styles. I have a convertable 2x12 that i also use and a mini rotary speaker with a 1x10. Sometimes i will use a second clean amp to use with it as well
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2010, 10:39:33 AM »

OTS into Mesa Cab with EV speaker and into Motion Sound SR-112, Boss DD3 & RV3 in loop, sometimes Xotic BB+ in front. That's enough knobs and sounds for me! Bert
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2010, 08:31:22 AM »

My pedal board consists of a Tuner, Wah, Whammy and Tube Screamer in front of the amp, Volume and TC Electronic Nova System in the loop and after it is put through a Talk Box. I use my Ceriatone for everything that has to be clean or not super saturated distortion. For the latter I use a Randall RM-4 which is output to the Ceriatone Return.
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2010, 11:47:41 AM »

In the front of my amp I have Boss TU2 Tuner into T-Rex Spin Doctor (Most of the time in bypass, but it adds really nice boost) the into the amp.
FX Loop into a C_Lator the into TC Electronics G Major and I switch the amp channels by midi and have a Rocktron Midimate on my pedal board.
Speakers are WGS 65's in a Marshall 4 x 12 cab running at 4 ohms.

I haven't tried it yet but coming soon, I also have a Stray Cat 30 and a Morley Triple switcher and running the 2 heads into either side of the Marshall cab 8 ohm inputs



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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2010, 02:23:07 PM »

I use:
- a Korg Tuner,
- Crybabe 535Q Wah,
- an Emma Discombobulator Auto Wah (Love them),
- a Xotic RC booster great to boost clean sounds like the 2 and 4 position of a strat.
- a Wampler Super Plextortion in front of the amp Good rock distortion.
In the loop
- a D'lator made by Erwin
- a Dynacord CLS 222 leslie (GREAT!) True bypass
- a Rocktron Xpression for Reverb delay and chorus. it has an Internal mixer so the dry signal remains analog. I use a Roland midi switch to change patches. I have 2 sets where the second set is the same but louder.
- 2 Celestion G12-65''s in an open back cab (removable back panel so it can be used closed as well.

Don't use the PAB switch very  much. I think it's kinda boxy and nasal.
Need to turn up the presence quite a bit to compensate for the D'Lator. I have several bright switches but the don't seem to do the trick. Might try another value bright cap.
volume at 7 (with a strat) 4/5 with humbuckers


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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2010, 02:50:41 PM »

Hi Steven,

I hope you moded your Crybaby 535Q for true bypass otherwise it will cut loads of highs from your tone.
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2010, 09:39:29 PM »

Hi Pickmaster

I had the impression this model IS true bypass? Isn't that an old discussion on the internet about this pedal?
Thanks for your reply
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2010, 07:14:52 AM »

Steven did you already try to hardwire bypass your rack fx?
I'm curious if there's a lot of highs getting lost around the Rocktron/Dynacord cabling.
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2010, 07:57:45 AM »

I did disconnect my fx from my D'lator. Also tried my guitar straight into the amp.
Obviously there is a difference, but all in all the D'lator has the biggest impact on the sound. Not necessarily a bad thing.

@ Pickmaster I think the newer models of the 535Q are true bypass or have a similair solution.
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2010, 09:36:46 PM »

@ Pickmaster I think the newer models of the 535Q are true bypass or have a similair solution.

No It is not.
Here is a letter from Derek Jones:

Hi Dr. Ika,

Ok, by doing this you will void your warranty and there could be a loud “pop” while switching the pedal on first time.  You just need to remove R42 and R41.

Cheers,

Derek

 Derek Jones
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Dunlop Manufacturing, Inc.

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« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2010, 10:59:14 AM »

I try not to use anything in front of my OTS amps anymore, so my guitar goes directly into the amp and I have my home built  D-Lator along with Lexicon MPX-1 in the loop. I also use Suhr Mini Mix for the parallel functionality.
...and I power everything through PowerBrite Pro Power Conditioner.

I also modded the PAB in my nonHRM... I didn't like it before. Now it's built in a bluesmaster fashion but I used different resister value. Now I can use clean, OD and PAB on both ch. - more then enough for anything really.
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« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2010, 02:12:25 PM »

Don't want to steal the topic, but I 'd love to hear more about the usefullness of a power conditioner.
Why how what? ;-)

I sometimes feel there is a fluctuation in volume and sometimes in tone when playing live or at home. Could this be power related? Could a conditioner solve this?
The electricity net in Holland is pretty good. But I have played in bars where even the light bulbs seem to be unstable LOL.
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« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2010, 03:21:38 PM »

Steven, last year I made some measurements at home, gigging places etc.

The voltages in Holland vary from 223 to 238v (if the central power net is used). Especially gigging places have big power consumption and result in a lower voltage.
In the powertransformer of the amp the voltages are upped to 1,4 times the original voltage. Due to this fluctuation in the net , the plates  are 15v-20v lower than they supposed to be. Lower plate voltages sound darker, give more compression and break up earlier.
It's really no voodoo, your actually can hear this...
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